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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not at all. I want to focus on what Obama has done under the circumstances that he was facing. If you think he could have done better, I'm very curious to know what you think he SHOULD have done differently?
    I first of all wouldn't have implemented a stimulus plan that did nothing to stimulate job creation and sell it on the basis that it would. I wouldn't have implemented Obamacare that is going to cost small business and do nothing to lower heallthcare costs.

    What I find amazing is that the "worst recession since the Great Depression" as liberals called it ended less than 5 months after Obama took office and today over two years later we have .4% GDP growth, 1.3% GDP growth and 24 plus million unemployed or under employed Americans.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Not at all. I want to focus on what Obama has done under the circumstances that he was facing.
    Translation - you will continue to:
    -Blame the GOP
    -Absolve the Dems
    -Defend The Obama

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post

    The exceptions would have to be specific, rather than general - in a time of declared war, for example.
    Ok, so we're nearing the end of the fiscal year, the budget is stretched to its Constitutional limit and the federal government can't spend anymore when along comes another hurricane like Katrina ... what then? So now that's another "exception" to the amendment?
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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ok, so we're nearing the end of the fiscal year, the budget is stretched to it's Constitutional limit and the federal government can't spend anymore when along comes another hurricane like Katrina ... what then? So now that's another "exception" to the amendment.
    So... the government doesn't spend the money.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    Ok, so we're nearing the end of the fiscal year, the budget is stretched to it's Constitutional limit and the federal government can't spend anymore when along comes another hurricane like Katrina ... what then? So now that's another "exception" to the amendment.

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post

    So... the government doesn't spend the money.
    I sure would like to see the GOP try to sell that to the American people ...

    GOP: we're gonna let people starve in New Orleans because that's Louisiana's problem and we can't spend another dime federally because we added a Constitutional amendment prohibiting us from borrowing any more money until October 1st.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is the place where there should be compromise

    the GOP compromises by cutting some military spending
    the Dems compromise by cutting social spending

    in other words both sides give up areas where they buy votes

    raising taxes has no relevance. anyone who supports raising taxes BEFORE the government can prove it can cut has way too much faith those clowns in DC
    Meanwhile, they keep intact an annual 'discretionary' budget of well over a trillion dollars. The amount of 'savings' in this legislation is a pittance. 2.4 trillion in 10 years? That ensures the total annual debt will continue to GROW. Both sides were so invested in protecting their ass they compromised on nothing.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I sure would like to see the GOP try to sell that to the American people ...
    There's always the possibility of not spending the money on something else.
    Fact remains - if you don't have it, you don't spend it. It's not a difficult concept.


    ...because we added a Constitutional amendment prohibiting us from borrowing any more money until October 1st....
    A BBA would preclude borrowing, period.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post

    There's always the possibility of not spending the money on something else.
    Fact remains - if you don't have it, you don't spend it. It's not a difficult concept.
    ;shrug:


    A BBA would preclude borrowing, period.
    As a nation, we've been borrowing from the beginning. It's only been growing out of control since Reagan implemented his voodoo economics.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    As a nation, we've been borrowing from the beginning. It's only been growing out of control since Reagan implemented his voodoo economics.
    For someone who wasn't old enough during the Reagan years you are sure can expert on the Reagan years. That is what you do, divert from the present to continue to blame the past for your own failures.

    Only in the liberal world is giving benefit to the taxpayer(tax cuts) an expense to the Federal govt. and the liberal agenda
    Last edited by Conservative; 08-01-11 at 02:08 PM.

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