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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    I'm upset that there are no impacting tax increases happening, especially on the corporate sector. We just practically bailed out the entire corporate economy and banking sector on Wall Street, and now the public has to face austerity for it. Why doesn't big business have to face any austerity?

    I'm glad the debt ceiling was raised but I don't think enough was done to really target the source of this problem.
    Yeah, especially businesses like General Electric who play ball with Obama - such thieving, no tax paying corporate entities should pay up! Actually, I am against corporate loopholes, especially when they provide zero good to the country. Some examples: GE (repeated since they are the worst offender), most government subsidized green "renewable" energy sources (wind turbines, the greatest offender here), corn growing subsidized for ethanol production (another government farce that makes food prices go up and gas mileage go down), General Motors (building mediocre vehicles and making unions richer on the backs of working Americans)... just to name a few!

    But, of course, let's increase taxes on small businesses, working middle class Americans, and perhaps blossoming businessmen millionaires who might employ many... cause that warped strategy works so damned well!
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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Flyersfan314 View Post
    The debt increased from intergovernmental holdings. I think that is the problem here, we are arguing to different yet similar things. Intergovernmental holdings don't effect the economy like public debt and don't necessarily need to be paid back (for example reforming SS would greatly reduce the intergovernmental holdings).

    Either way Clinton did a better job of any other modern president of limiting the budget.
    Intergovt. holdings do affect the debt and deficit and will affect the economy since that is where SS resides. There are trillions in IOU's there that have to be funded thus the money you contributed to SS has already been spent. Debt service is paid on the total debt and comes out of the tax dollars.

    Clinton lost the Congress in 1994 and had a GOP Congress that submitted budgets to him lower than he wanted but he signed them. Clinton had a GOP Congress from 1995 until the end of his term.

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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    The Democratic party STANDS for giving a damn about the average American.... Our sole principles are founded on medicare and social security along with government programs to assit poverty in a broad range of areas. I am not saying our party is better then the GOP, I am saying our principles serve the people instead of the wealthy and large corporations.
    Bull****. I refuse to drink your koolaid.

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    Re: Obama: We have a deal

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Financial crisis? The left in this thread and forum are claiming "country destroyed". I woulda been watching chaos on CNN. Cats and dogs living together... Sure. Bunch of drama queens. If a new season of Queer Eye and Dick Loves Jane don't start soon, we're gonna have to suffer this with every decision in congress.

    In the age of terrorism, "they're gonna make you eat dog food" has become "they're gonna completely destroy the country and we will all cease to exist". As a society, we've gone to 11. It's like if pundits are not calling each other Nazis and terrorists, they're not even trying.

    I can't wait to find out who "saved us at the last moment" like a fireman running into a burning building. That oughta be a hoot.
    The worst part is that liberals will demand free can openers.
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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yeah, I can see your credible sources that ignore actual data. I see a lot of misinformation in your posts because obviously you get your information from partisan sites or sites that only tell half the story(polifact) Still waiting to see that surplus you claim Clinton had and show it with actual numbers. If you are wrong on that what makes you think you aren't wrong on your other issues? This country wasn't built on the principles you support and I guess it is easier blaming a big company that actually employes people that pays taxes than it is holding your elected Representatives accountable for creating a 14.4 trillion dollar debt. Millions of people are employed by those evil big companies and those people live in your community, pay taxes, and contribute to charities. Keep discounting that.
    Those "great corporations" you are talking about dont give a damn about anyone, any community, or any THING. Their sole purpose is to generage profit and make themselves wealthy. If they cared so much about our citizens and communities they wouldnt be moving their factories and jobs overseas.... I mean.... Why would they do such a thing with those great big Bush Tax cuts they are getting to create jobs? I mean.... they are the job creators... a must be given as many loopholes as possible to generate billions of dollars and give nothing in return.

    I am wrong on this? You sound a little upset.... is the truth hard to accept? These corporations could care less about me or YOU, so quit defending them. If you love them so much, give them money.

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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    The Democratic party STANDS for giving a damn about the average American.... Our sole principles are founded on medicare and social security along with government programs to assit poverty in a broad range of areas. I am not saying our party is better then the GOP, I am saying our principles serve the people instead of the wealthy and large corporations.
    This has to be an act, right? No one can possible believe that our principles were founded on medicare and SS for those were never implemented until the 40's. You are providing entertainment today.

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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Bull****. I refuse to drink your koolaid.
    Dont drink it then. Atleast I have an opinion.

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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This has to be an act, right? No one can possible believe that our principles were founded on medicare and SS for those were never implemented until the 40's. You are providing entertainment today.
    U mad bro? By "our" principles I am referring to liberal principles. Not American Principles. Democrats stand to defend people, Conservatives stand to defend their employees, large corporations and God. What I dont understand is why a good "christian" conservative would be willing to let people suffer, and balance a budget on the backs of the poor. That to me sounds a little "un-christian". We should hold a national prayer day lead by rick perry.
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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Those "great corporations" you are talking about dont give a damn about anyone, any community, or any THING. Their sole purpose is to generage profit and make themselves wealthy. If they cared so much about our citizens and communities they wouldnt be moving their factories and jobs overseas.... I mean.... Why would they do such a thing with those great big Bush Tax cuts they are getting to create jobs? I mean.... they are the job creators... a must be given as many loopholes as possible to generate billions of dollars and give nothing in return.

    I am wrong on this? You sound a little upset.... is the truth hard to accept? These corporations could care less about me or YOU, so quit defending them. If you love them so much, give them money.
    Demonizing business is what liberals do, all to retain power. the liberal elite love having people like you and are laughing their asses off at you as they continue to make you look foolish.

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    Re: Breaking: Agreement has been reached on raising the debt limit....

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    U mad bro?
    not at all, enjoying the entertainment here from another liberal the elite is making a fool of.

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