Last edited by SypherAL; 08-01-11 at 08:42 AM.
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Last edited by Conservative; 08-01-11 at 08:51 AM.
This deal is being called a "down payment", it's hardly that. And call me jaded, but these triggers that are supposed to happen when / if the Congress or this committee cannot agree... my crystal ball says those triggers will quickly fade away and be ignored or removed entirely. This debate and fight will happen all again. The ONLY thing that was positive in this entire sham of a display by government, is that the tea party has now forced and framed this discussion in Washington and has forced everyone to listen. This has also proven that the tea party is no astro turf - and that they at least as a vast minority, have the ability and the support to push harder for conservative ideals than anyone ever could have imagined a year or two ago. IF there is ever to be a change in Washington to fight the status quo of a John McCain or a Harry Reid, the tea party is it. At least right now.
“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
Any thread, like this one, that has devolved into a 'My side is better than your side" is nothing but a waste of time. Neither side is 100% right and neither side is 100% wrong. Neither side gives a damn about the average American. What we have is a very badly broken two party system.
Not to say that we have any real alternative.
The debt increased from intergovernmental holdings. I think that is the problem here, we are arguing two different yet similar things. Intergovernmental holdings don't effect the economy like public debt and don't necessarily need to be paid back (for example reforming SS would greatly reduce the intergovernmental holdings).
Either way Clinton did a better job of any other modern president of limiting the budget.