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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Do you realize what you're saying?? After claiming no less than 2,000 times about how "results matter," you finally confess that results don't really matter to you at all. Not one bit. All that matters to you is that the candidate put a "R" after their name.

    Damn, Conservative, who knew you thought the "R" after a candidates name stood for "Results."


    Who would you have voted for given the choice we had and if you were a Conservative? Results do matter but I use the balance sheet approach, assets vs. liabilities and in 2004 the economy was improving dramatically. That isn't the case now nor will it be next year as Obama has no economic plan in place

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    McCain would have put stimulus spending towards creating jobs, not saving unions.
    And the money he saved in stimulus he would have spent invading Iran.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And the money he saved in stimulus he would have spent invading Iran.
    Did you serve in the military and if so were you deployed?

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Do you realize what you're saying?? After claiming no less than 2,000 times about how "results matter," you finally confess that results don't really matter to you at all. Not one bit. All that matters to you is that the candidate put a "R" after their name.

    Damn, Conservative, who knew you thought the "R" after a candidates name stood for "Results."


    Bush employment results that warranted re-election in November 2004

    2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
    2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
    2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
    2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125

    January 2001 137.8
    October 2004 139.7

    2 million increase

    GDP growth

    2001 10286.20
    2002 10642.30
    2003 11142.10
    2004 11867.80

    Bush got 51% of the November 2004 vote with most apparently seeing the same numbers as I saw

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Since 40% of the people now believe that Obama is doing a good job and that number was 45% a few days ago that would be a declining number and I believe you are part of that 40%
    You mean the Republican plan to bring down Obama at the risk of wrecking our nation's credit is working? And I'm still not sure what you think that number means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    So Obama's stimulus package which was signed the first of February 2009 for shovel ready jobs didn't solve the unemployment problem yet you blame Bush.
    It wasn't Obama's fault that 8 million people lost their job. That was the result of Bush's Great Recession.

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Don't see the 22 million lost jobs during the Bush years but I guess you make numbers up as you go along.
    I'm employing your math ... 14% U6 rate of an employment force of 154 million.

    Do you see the irony of the guy who posts how the current U6 rate of the current employment force means we have 24 million underemployed can't see how that same equation works in the month when Bush handed Obama the keys to the White House?

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You mean the Republican plan to bring down Obama at the risk of wrecking our nation's credit is working? And I'm still not sure what you think that number means.


    It wasn't Obama's fault that 8 million people lost their job. That was the result of Bush's Great Recession.


    I'm employing your math ... 14% U6 rate of an employment force of 154 million.

    Do you see the irony of the guy who posts how the current U6 rate of the current employment force means we have 24 million underemployed can't see how that same equation works in the month when Bush handed Obama the keys to the White House?
    40% approval rating indicates to me that Obama is losing this battle and you know it. He scares people like you and you continue to buy the rhetoric.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    When it is presented as fact to sell a program which is what happened during the Stimulus debate
    Do you ever stop lying??

    Damn, Conservative!

    It was presented WITH the disclaimer ...

    "It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."
    That doesn't look like "fact" to me.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    You mean the Republican plan to bring down Obama at the risk of wrecking our nation's credit is working? And I'm still not sure what you think that number means.


    It wasn't Obama's fault that 8 million people lost their job. That was the result of Bush's Great Recession.


    I'm employing your math ... 14% U6 rate of an employment force of 154 million.

    Do you see the irony of the guy who posts how the current U6 rate of the current employment force means we have 24 million underemployed can't see how that same equation works in the month when Bush handed Obama the keys to the White House?
    So then two years after the end of a recession we have 3 million more unemployed or under employed (154 million X 16.2%) and you think that is worthy of re-election? When does this become the Obama economy?

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Who would you have voted for given the choice we had and if you were a Conservative?
    Ummm, this isn't about me. You're the one who constantly claims that "results matter."

    Except to you, all that matters is that the candidate put an "R" after their name.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Do you ever stop lying??

    Damn, Conservative!

    It was presented WITH the disclaimer ...

    "It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error. There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."
    That doesn't look like "fact" to me.
    Obama record, 15.1 million officially unemployed TODAY 2 1/2 years later, 16.2% total unemployment or underemployment over 24 million TODAY, 4 trillion added to the debt as of the end of fiscal year 2011, and a rising misery index(7.83 to 12.67).

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