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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Let's get it straight, House Democrats CANNOT bring a budget to the floor WITHOUT the House leader's approval.
    Methinks he refers to the first two years of The Obama's Administration

    So, even if the Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi, did have a debt limit plan of her own that House Democrats supported, it would NEVER make it to the House floor. Only Speaker Boehner and his crew can do that per House rules.
    Correct. The GOP has the ball - if you want to play, you have to go to them.

    See, there's a good number of GOP Congressmen who are perfectly OK with not raising the debt ceiling, enough so that any hike cannot be passed w/o their support.
    OTOH, the Dems/liberals cannot imagine life w/o the government being able to borrow - as if THAT doesn't say someething - and so, if they want to get that hike, they have to present a deal that those who are happy to not raise the limit will accept.

    Apparently, this has yet to happen.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Conservatives have always blamed others for their problems. It's the welfare mama's fault that they aren't rich. It's the black man's fault they don't have a job. It's the gay's fault that their marriage is miserable.

    You name it, and they'll blame someone for it.

    That's why Palin (who hasn't yet found a spotlight she wouldn't hog) complains about the media all the time. It's the media's fault when they quote her verbatim. It was Katie Couric's fault that she couldn't think of the title of one single magazine.

    That's why Newt Gingrich blamed his patriotism for him cheating on two wives.

    That's why it's the minority Democrat's fault we went to war in Iraq based on WMDs that weren't there.

    Blame, blame, blame, blame.

    Oh, and victim, victim, victim. Don't forget victimhood. Those billionaire Koch Brothers are under assault don't you know. That oppressive government has only let them make $35 Billion, what with it's security and infrastructure and all. If only they'd been born in a nation without those things, like Somalia or Kyrgyzstan, they'd have at least another $20 billion! But they had the misfortune of being born to uber-wealthy parents in America of all places. Now, they have to spend millions and millions of dollars lobbying their Republican friends to help them avoid paying taxes, or they would be broke! Why, if they had to pay FICA taxes on all their income, they couldn't live! If their top rate were returned to 39.6%, they'd have to pack up and move to Namibia, where they can be free of government and it's evil ways. Poor fellas. They just can't catch a break, can they?
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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Misery index is calendar year, GDP and budget numbers are off fiscal year. Your hatred for the foundation upon which this country was built is noted.

    I just need to know how to better find ways to show my hatred for the freely elected leader, that's all.

    Without your advice, I just couldn't possibly find my way through this labyrinth.

    And Congress, we're supposed to blame fiscally, but president's on calendar year, right? Even going back to January 1, 18 days before they take office? Is that the most effective way to judge them?

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No one. It's his own damn fault for not taking this debt ceiling issue by the balls and ever trusting the Great Pumpkin in negotiations.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    I just need to know how to better find ways to show my hatred for the freely elected leader, that's all.

    Without your advice, I just couldn't possibly find my way through this labyrinth.

    And Congress, we're supposed to blame fiscally, but president's on calendar year, right? Even going back to January 1, 18 days before they take office? Is that the most effective way to judge them?
    I like Obama, great guy, great smile, good looking kids but a very poor leader and totally incompetent. His economic policy was a disaster and the results show it. Now if you stopped thinking with your heart you would understand that.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Here's another little interesting observation:

    In an op-ed in today's Miami Herald, Weiner and Horton cite a 5.4% GDP growth under Democratic presidents since 1930...
    <Pause>

    Hmm, I wonder why they chose to start with Democrats since 1930 instead of -- i dunno -- Republicans since 1950 or something...



    Oh. That's why!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    ...emocratic presidents since 1930, "who have emphasized people programs and resisted rich tax breaks," versus 1.4% growth under Republican presidents, who have enacted rich tax cuts, paralleling current Republicans.
    I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm not exactly pining to relive the mid-30's, when much of this glorious, people centric, Richie-Rich pay-up! growth occurred.

    Or WWII for that matter...

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    No one. It's his own damn fault for not taking this debt ceiling issue by the balls and ever trusting the Great Pumpkin in negotiations.
    He has been in charge 2 1/2 years, had total control of the Congress his first two years part of which it was filibuster proof and could have addressed this problem then but didn't. He has yet to take anything by the balls showing that he is a community organizer not a leader. He delegates responsibility and blames everyone else which no good leader could ever do. Hell, his budget was defeated 97-0 and he has no plan for the debt ceiling. He delegated responsibility for creating the Stimulus bill, for healthcare, and now for the debt ceiling. That is poor leadership or no leadership at all.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that when I make a point and you can't refute it, but instread, repeat Obama's JAR or economic numbers, I take that to mean you know I'm right?

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    It's the gay's fault that their marriage is miserable.
    i'm sorry, but you're cracking me up

    this, in my view, is what happens when one's rant to link ratio gets too high

    don't mind me, carry on

    did you hear about the gdp---1.3%

    ouch

    doesn't even keep up with population

    and only .4 last quarter

    that's close to DOUBLE DIP

    housing, by the way, which more than anything else got us all here, is now OFFICIALLY there

    may 5: CNBC: It's Official, Home Values Double Dip

    party on, progressives

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    What point? I'm not really saying that Republicans are directly responsible for this, but like Obama they promised miracles if people would vote for them.

    And they didn't achieve them, did they?

    But again, they are trying to pass a bill that will still ruin the US credit rating, increase the national debt, increase interest rates on working Americans, and force everyone back into the same boat we're in right now in just six months. What an incredibly responsible bill that is!
    They've had one house for a few months. Do you know how Washington works?

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