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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Actually, it's kinda funny you posted that. That means when Democrats were in Congress AND the White House, GDP growth went from -4.9% to +2.3% - for a turnaround of 7.2%.

    Let's see how things went when Republicans controlled the Congress and the White House, GDP growth went from 2.6% to .9%... Aww...

    But, you'll really have to ask Conservative whether we're supposed to use fiscal year numbers or calendar year numbers or quarterlies or monthlies, because he is the one who gets to decide what numbers are used.

    Oh, and back at ya.
    Slightly liberal? You are a full liberal so take full credit. The Obama record speaks for itself

    Obama record, 15.1 million officially unemployed TODAY 2 1/2 years later, 16.2% total unemployment or underemployment over 24 million TODAY, 4 trillion added to the debt as of the end of fiscal year 2011, and a rising misery index(7.83 to 12.67).

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Right, the first budget of the new fiscal year began under the Democrat Congress in October 2007.
    We've been through this before. I pointed out the recession began only 2 months after their budget began and asked you what policy they put in place which caused Bush's Great Recession.

    To recap...

    You couldn't cite anything from their budget which caused the recession.

    You couldn't cite a single bill they passed which caused the recession.

    You tried to cite them not passing a measure which would have increased oversight over the GSE's, which is valid -- only that was the same policy maintained by Republicans for the 7 years prior top Democrats taking over the Congress in 2007.

    Then you tried to blame Chris Dodd and Barney Frank during years they were in the minority party while Republicans were [supposedly] in charge.

    Oh, wait, here's my favorite part ...

    "You always blame someone else for your own failures never taking personal responsibility." ~ Conservative

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Slightly liberal? You are a full liberal so take full credit. The Obama record speaks for itself

    Obama record, 15.1 million officially unemployed TODAY 2 1/2 years later, 16.2% total unemployment or underemployment over 24 million TODAY, 4 trillion added to the debt as of the end of fiscal year 2011, and a rising misery index(7.83 to 12.67).
    Are we supposed to go off the fiscal year or the calendar year with regards to the misery index numbers? Where do we get these? And I probably should change my label because ever since the advent of the ridiculousness that is the Tea Party, I would like to be considered as far away from them as possible, since they're about to destroy our economy with their foolishness.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Are we supposed to go off the fiscal year or the calendar year with regards to the misery index numbers? Where do we get these? And I probably should change my label because ever since the advent of the ridiculousness that is the Tea Party, I would like to be considered as far away from them as possible, since they're about to destroy our economy with their foolishness.
    Misery index is calendar year, GDP and budget numbers are off fiscal year. Your hatred for the foundation upon which this country was built is noted.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We've been through this before. I pointed out the recession began only 2 months after their budget began and asked you what policy they put in place which caused Bush's Great Recession.

    To recap...

    You couldn't cite anything from their budget which caused the recession.

    You couldn't cite a single bill they passed which caused the recession.

    You tried to cite them not passing a measure which would have increased oversight over the GSE's, which is valid -- only that was the same policy maintained by Republicans for the 7 years prior top Democrats taking over the Congress in 2007.

    Then you tried to blame Chris Dodd and Barney Frank during years they were in the minority party while Republicans were [supposedly] in charge.

    Oh, wait, here's my favorite part ...

    "You always blame someone else for your own failures never taking personal responsibility." ~ Conservative
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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    As far as we know, the stimulus did nothing, it hurt us, or it saved us from a terrible depression.
    Let's hope it did nothing...

    Because if it's been propping us up all this time (as some would contend, with CBO estimates no less), we may soon be in for a whole lot of hurt as funding dries up...

    And that trusty stool...
    That's kept us safe...
    For so long...
    From some obviously terrible but not terribly obvious consequence...

    is quietly kicked from under our feet.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We've been through this before. I pointed out the recession began only 2 months after their budget began and asked you what policy they put in place which caused Bush's Great Recession.

    To recap...

    You couldn't cite anything from their budget which caused the recession.

    You couldn't cite a single bill they passed which caused the recession.

    You tried to cite them not passing a measure which would have increased oversight over the GSE's, which is valid -- only that was the same policy maintained by Republicans for the 7 years prior top Democrats taking over the Congress in 2007.

    Then you tried to blame Chris Dodd and Barney Frank during years they were in the minority party while Republicans were [supposedly] in charge.

    Oh, wait, here's my favorite part ...

    "You always blame someone else for your own failures never taking personal responsibility." ~ Conservative
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    Obama approval rating today 40%, The American people are waking up

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    First they submitted a budget that the Democrats never did, that is a start
    Let's get it straight, House Democrats CANNOT bring a budget to the floor WITHOUT the House leader's approval. So, even if the Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi, did have a debt limit plan of her own that House Democrats supported, it would NEVER make it to the House floor. Only Speaker Boehner and his crew can do that per House rules.

    Furthermore, per Art 1, Sect 7 to the Constitution, bills (especially those dealing with revenue) must first come from the House. (Also see House rules, section 7) Then the Senate can either approve it or reject it. In fact, the Senate can't bring a law up for a vote until after the House has taken up the vote first. Why do you think Sen. Reid's bill has yet to be brought to the floor of the Senate? All this talk from Sen. McConnell talking about the Democrats haven't submitted a plan is BS and he knows it. Unfortunately, most Americans especially those who are partisan don't understand the process of how our government works where Congress is concerned.

    Process...learn it, understand it, govern by it!
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 07-29-11 at 04:29 PM.

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    We've been through this before. I pointed out the recession began only 2 months after their budget began and asked you what policy they put in place which caused Bush's Great Recession.

    To recap...

    You couldn't cite anything from their budget which caused the recession.

    You couldn't cite a single bill they passed which caused the recession.

    You tried to cite them not passing a measure which would have increased oversight over the GSE's, which is valid -- only that was the same policy maintained by Republicans for the 7 years prior top Democrats taking over the Congress in 2007.

    Then you tried to blame Chris Dodd and Barney Frank during years they were in the minority party while Republicans were [supposedly] in charge.

    Oh, wait, here's my favorite part ...

    "You always blame someone else for your own failures never taking personal responsibility." ~ Conservative
    Conservatives have always blamed others for their problems. It's the welfare mama's fault that they aren't rich. It's the black man's fault they don't have a job. It's the gay's fault that their marriage is miserable.

    You name it, and they'll blame someone for it.

    That's why Palin (who hasn't yet found a spotlight she wouldn't hog) complains about the media all the time. It's the media's fault when they quote her verbatim. It was Katie Couric's fault that she couldn't think of the title of one single magazine.

    That's why Newt Gingrich blamed his patriotism for him cheating on two wives.

    That's why it's the minority Democrat's fault we went to war in Iraq based on WMDs that weren't there.

    Blame, blame, blame, blame.

    Oh, and victim, victim, victim. Don't forget victimhood. Those billionaire Koch Brothers are under assault don't you know. That oppressive government has only let them make $35 Billion, what with it's security and infrastructure and all. If only they'd been born in a nation without those things, like Somalia or Kyrgyzstan, they'd have at least another $20 billion! But they had the misfortune of being born to uber-wealthy parents in America of all places. Now, they have to spend millions and millions of dollars lobbying their Republican friends to help them avoid paying taxes, or they would be broke! Why, if they had to pay FICA taxes on all their income, they couldn't live! If their top rate were returned to 39.6%, they'd have to pack up and move to Namibia, where they can be free of government and it's evil ways. Poor fellas. They just can't catch a break, can they?

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    Re: U.S. GDP Grows Just 1.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Let's get it straight, House Democrats CANNOT bring a budget to the floor WITHOUT the House leader's approval. So, even if the Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi, did have a debt limit plan of her own that House Democrats supported, it would NEVER make it to the House floor. Only Speaker Boehner and his crew can do that per House rules.

    Furthermore, per Art 1, Sect 7 to the Constitution, bills (especially those dealing with revenue) must first come from the House. Then the Senate can either approve it or reject it. In fact, the Senate can't bring a law up for a vote until after the House has taken up the vote first. Why do you think Sen. Reid's bill has yet to be brought to the floor of the Senate? All this talk from Sen. McConnell talking about the Democrats haven't submitted a plan is BS and he knows it. Unfortunately, most Americans especially those who are partisan don't understand the process of how our government works where Congress is concerned.

    Process...learn it, understand it, govern by it!
    I am talking about the 2011 budget that was due last year before October, the Democrats ignored it and operated on CR's. The GOP took control and submitted a budget with spending cuts, it was rejected by the Senate and Obama who wants this crisis as a lifeline to re-election. Looks like it isn't working with the current approval ratings.

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