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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You do not know what an appeal to emotion is.
    Evidence is above.
    Actually, I do and you don't

    And now you're using an argument from authority
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

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    And there's no evidence that the VA only treats combat-related illnesses.

    Another appeal to emotion. I thought you were opposed to those.

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    I'm sorry but this is not about the VA.
    Again, you do not know what an appeal to emotion is.
    Your merely attempting to detract from my position using character assassination.
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, I do and you don't

    And now you're using an argument from authority
    What authority am I using?
    I'm merely pointing out that there is no clear evidence that the potential exposure could have caused them harm.

    It's merely conjecture.
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Mr V, are you going to address my statement?

    You don't think government should help these people, so are you willing to step in and help... and push the government out of the way?

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm sorry but this is not about the VA.
    Again, you do not know what an appeal to emotion is.
    Your merely attempting to detract from my position using character assassination.
    I'm sorry, but I'll make whatever point I want to make.

    Again, you don't know what an appeal to emotion is

    You're just unable to rebut my points, so you are passively-aggresively trying to shut me up. You should know that won't work
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    What authority am I using?
    I'm merely pointing out that there is no clear evidence that the potential exposure could have caused them harm.

    It's merely conjecture.
    Yes, there is evidence that the potential exposure could have caused the harm. Your post is fiction
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'm sorry, but I'll make whatever point I want to make.

    Again, you don't know what an appeal to emotion is

    You're just unable to rebut my points, so you are passively-aggresively trying to shut me up. You should know that won't work
    Read.
    Appeal to emotion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Now show me where it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, there is evidence that the potential exposure could have caused the harm. Your post is fiction
    In your own post you admit that it "could," but can not verify that it "is."
    "Could" is potential, "is" is verifiable.
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Appeal to nature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Your entire political philosophy is a logical fallacy



    In your own post you admit that it "could," but can not verify that it "is."
    "Could" is potential, "is" is verifiable.
    In your own post, you said said "could" and said nothing about "is"

    I'm merely pointing out that there is no clear evidence that the potential exposure could have caused them harm.
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    I think they've earned the right to healthcare. I don't care if it wasn't from what they did on 9/11, their heroism on that day was extraordinary, and the country owes them dignity, and respect. They should not have to wither, and die, from a lack of healthcare.
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Did I say that?
    No.

    What I said is that there is no evidence that the cancers present in some people are directly related to the carcinogens that they were potentially exposed to during and after the WTC attacks.

    1st off, not all of them were exposed to a hazardous level of carcinogens, 2nd exposure to carcinogens does not automatically mean you will develop a cancer related to the exposure, 3rd cancer can develop regardless of whether or not they were exposed to those carcinogens.

    Knowing all that, how can any of you conclusively say that their cancers were a direct result of and should paid for because of the WTC attacks.
    Answer, none.

    You're just caught up in the emotionalism.
    Veteran's have been hearing that same lame ass argument about Agent Orange and Gulf War Syndrome and PTSD.

    Harry, EPA Administrator Whitman was determined by a federal judge to have lied about the air quality following 9/11. "By these actions," Judge [Deborah] Batts wrote, Mrs. Whitman "increased, and may have in fact created, the danger" to people living and working near the trade center.

    So later we find that Christie Whitman, playing the role of GOP political prostitute, lies to the nation and the people of New York on behalf of the George W. Bush Administration and assures the people of Manhattan and the 9/11 workers that the air is safe AND YOU HARRY SAY "**** THOSE PEOPLE FOR EXPECTING ANYTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT THAT LIED TO THEM". Beautiful, just beautiful.










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