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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1) Nobody is saying that corporations should pay less, only that it wouldn't be a good idea to make them pay more.
    Plenty of rightwingers are saying that corps should pay less. Many are arguing that the wealthy are paying too much.

    2) American businesses have been and will be making plenty of sacrifices, due to government intervention for decades, now.
    Business profits are at record highs right now. Some sacrifice

    3) Maybe the stealfromus money would have been better spent, had it gone to something like this vice funding research trips to China to look dinosaur eggs. Or, maybe we could have done without a few unicorn milk programs?
    You mean the stimulus bill that was laden with tax credits? I thought the rightwingers loved tax credits!

    Well, time to throw another rightwing idea under the bus
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'

    At Obama's side, Clinton backs tax deal - politics - White House - msnbc.com

    the bush/obama/clinton/boehner/mcconnell tax cuts---if you're not aboard you're a splinter

    ie, party on, petrograd

    brrr...

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

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    Reality at it's finest.

    Government cannot do everything, cannot solve every problem and fund every issue. Despite the pipe dreams of the liberals. That's why we're 15,000,000,000,000.00 in the hole and counting.
    $15 trillion??? You are quite off. Please see the US debt clock (U.S. National Debt Clock)
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Would a trillion dollars cover it?
    I would certainly hope so. If you have paid any attention to my post history you would know that governmental fiscal inefficiency is a big problem in my book. That having been said, their are some things that I have no problem allotting my tax dollars to. This is one of those things.

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Reality at it's finest.

    Government cannot do everything, cannot solve every problem and fund every issue. Despite the pipe dreams of the liberals. That's why we're 15,000,000,000,000.00 in the hole and counting.
    Yes of course it's all the fault of the liberals. Is there anything more simplistic that Foxspeak?

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1) Nobody is saying that corporations should pay less, only that it wouldn't be a good idea to make them pay more.

    2) American businesses have been and will be making plenty of sacrifices, due to government intervention for decades, now.

    3) Maybe the stealfromus money would have been better spent, had it gone to something like this vice funding research trips to China to look dinosaur eggs. Or, maybe we could have done without a few unicorn milk programs?

    I do agree with you on # 3. Cut this crap, that should be privately funded. I don't want Corps to pay more that they are supposed, but when I pay 33% of my income on Federal Tax, and they pay 17%, something is wrong. We are talking now, sacrifices now. If I have to go without something, so do they. They are are going to push my retirement to 70, then they need to let go of the deductions for corporate jets.
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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Plenty of rightwingers are saying that corps should pay less. Many are arguing that the wealthy are paying too much.
    There may be a few, but in general Conservatives are in favor of leaving things as they are.



    Business profits are at record highs right now. Some sacrifice
    Not overall corporate profits. Stop with the propaganda.



    You mean the stimulus bill that was laden with tax credits? I thought the rightwingers loved tax credits!

    Well, time to throw another rightwing idea under the bus
    The stealfromus bill had tax breaks for certain businesses, but nothing across the board. I would ask for you to show us, specifically, what those breaks are, but I already know you can't, so I won't waste time with it.

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    I do agree with you on # 3. Cut this crap, that should be privately funded. I don't want Corps to pay more that they are supposed, but when I pay 33% of my income on Federal Tax, and they pay 17%, something is wrong. We are talking now, sacrifices now. If I have to go without something, so do they. They are are going to push my retirement to 70, then they need to let go of the deductions for corporate jets.
    Large corporations don't pay 17%. You're buying into the propaganda. And, if you paid 33%, you make a ****load of money.

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    I would certainly hope so. If you have paid any attention to my post history you would know that governmental fiscal inefficiency is a big problem in my book. That having been said, their are some things that I have no problem allotting my tax dollars to. This is one of those things.
    My point, is that perhaps the stealfromus package could have been better spent.

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    Re: Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There may be a few, but in general Conservatives are in favor of leaving things as they are.
    Plenty are pushing for cuts. Why do you think the stimulus was laden with tax cuts and credits?

    Not overall corporate profits. Stop with the propaganda.
    Yes, corporate profits are at record highs


    Ezra Klein - The real story on corporate profits -- plus a chart

    The stealfromus bill had tax breaks for certain businesses, but nothing across the board. I would ask for you to show us, specifically, what those breaks are, but I already know you can't, so I won't waste time with it.
    Funny how you demand proof while making claims you never back up

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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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