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Study finds Corporate America avoided $60B in taxes (2010)

TheDemSocialist said:
So you would agree with monopolies? Child labor? Risky loans that ruin lives? Complete unregulation? Pure capitalism?



Seriously? This is how your knowledge works? This is your process of thinking? Is this supposed to be a response?
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with your signature, its funny you are ranting about "thinking". socialism is a malignancy
 
TurtleDude said:
with your signature, its funny you are ranting about "thinking". socialism is a malignancy
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It is?
How you figure that?
Oh yea you try to explain this to me all the time because supposedly only "lazy people like socialism"...:roll:
 
TurtleDude said:
Yeah, if you have no skin in the game you really don't have much reason to vote responsibly. It would be like letting street bums vote for the management at some company merely because those bums piss on the front lawns of the company and sleep on the park benches in front of the main entryway
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I've never seen anyone with more contempt for the working class that produces 90% of the wealth in this country that the top 10% hordes.

The wealthy should be more careful than to bite the hand that feeds. Or not, which will push the country to make the needed corrective course for progressive taxes again just as the country did after the last time the wealth desparity was this great in the 1920's.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
It is?
How you figure that?
Oh yea you try to explain this to me all the time because supposedly only "lazy people like socialism"...:roll:
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socialism appeals to several groups

1) the dependents who want government to take care of them
2) air headed idealists
3) machiavellian control freaks who see a socialist government as reins upon society they can grab
 
Catawba said:
I've never seen anyone with more contempt for the working class that produces 90% of the wealth in this country that the top 10% hordes.

The wealthy should be more careful than to bite the hand that feeds. Or not, which will push the country to make the needed corrective course for progressive taxes again just as the country did after the last time the wealth desparity was this great in the 1920's.
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You make stuff up constantly. your workers of the world unite and rise up is specious BS. welfare socialism is the opiate that keeps your kind fat and happy and too stoned to do a damn thing.
 
Oh I know let's ask the Founders what they think of corporations. Here is one one from Jefferson. “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” I think we lost that one.
 
U.S. Socialist. said:
Oh I know let's ask the Founders what they think of corporations. Here is one one from Jefferson. “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” I think we lost that one.
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Our libertarian friends who profess to be so in love with the Founders will somehow someway find an excuse to overlook that particular wise bit of advice from Mr. Jefferson.

Like Paul Simon wrote in THE BOXER.... "a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest". Those on the right are deaf in one ear.
 
Tettsuo said:
The left promotes policies that increase the middle class. The right promotes policies that destroy the middle class and places them in the poor house.

So who's promoting a welfare state?
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You are, you drain people's pockets to buy votes.
 
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TurtleDude said:
socialism appeals to several groups
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It appeals to people who are socialists and put people before profit....

1) the dependents who want government to take care of them
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First off socialists do not want the "government to take care of us."
You have no idea what socialism is just from this first one......

2) air headed idealists
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everyone is an idealist bud.

3) machiavellian control freaks who see a socialist government as reins upon society they can grab
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Good god you have no idea what socialism is...
Remember George Orwell in 1984 speaking out against big gov and big brother? Guess what he was a socialist... Does he want the gov to control everything? Cuz apparently to TurtleDudes world that is what socialism is... George Orwell a socialist spoke out against that...
 
TheDemSocialist said:
It appeals to people who are socialists and put people before profit....


First off socialists do not want the "government to take care of us."
You have no idea what socialism is just from this first one......


everyone is an idealist bud.


Good god you have no idea what socialism is...
Remember George Orwell in 1984 speaking out against big gov and big brother? Guess what he was a socialist... Does he want the gov to control everything? Cuz apparently to TurtleDudes world that is what socialism is... George Orwell a socialist spoke out against that...
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socialists and other similar forms of collectivists always want to depict that cancer as some pristine philosophical pure program while ignoring all the ugliness and dead bodies that have been caused by their ideal when it is applied to the real world
 
Since no turtledude seems to think socialism equals big government totalitarianism let's hear from an actual socialist. Albert Einstein. Even turtledude can't be foolish enough to call Einstein lazy or whatever insults he usually uses. Read this to learn what socialism is: Why Socialism? :: Monthly Review
 
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TurtleDude said:
You make stuff up constantly. your workers of the world unite and rise up is specious BS. welfare socialism is the opiate that keeps your kind fat and happy and too stoned to do a damn thing.
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My "kind" is the working class, and thanks for confirming my assessment. :sun
 
haymarket said:
Our libertarian friends who profess to be so in love with the Founders will somehow someway find an excuse to overlook that particular wise bit of advice from Mr. Jefferson.

Like Paul Simon wrote in THE BOXER.... "a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest". Those on the right are deaf in one ear.
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I don't think that general statement is true of most libertarians, only the extreme far right conservatives that pose as libertarians because the Republican party is too liberal to suit their taste.
 
rocket88 said:
It's nothing compared to when Michele Bachmann talks about history.
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Please, spare me the Bachman bull****. It's a ****ing joke for leftists to even say the name of the founders. They hate the Constitution and want to change this country into Europe. That's a generalization that is generally true for most. But you're a centrist right? Yeah sure. I don't believe in centrists and moderates.
 
American said:
Please, spare me the Bachman bull****. It's a ****ing joke for leftists to even say the name of the founders. They hate the Constitution and want to change this country into Europe. That's a generalization that is generally true for most. But you're a centrist right? Yeah sure. I don't believe in centrists and moderates.
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At least they know where Revolutionary War started unlike that idiot Bachman.
 
American said:
But you're a centrist right? Yeah sure. I don't believe in centrists and moderates.
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Because in your world, anybody who isn't with you is against you. Cons only see two colors, black and white.

Learn something about politics and come back. Until then, STFU. I seriously HATE people like you who lump anybody who criticizes the policies of your precious GOP with socialists. You all have your heads so far up your ass that you couldn't read the Constitution from there unless it's your side that using it for toilet paper.
 
U.S. Socialist. said:
Since no turtledude seems to think socialism equals big government totalitarianism let's hear from an actual socialist. Albert Einstein. Even turtledude can't be foolish enough to call Einstein lazy or whatever insults he usually uses. Read this to learn what socialism is: Why Socialism? :: Monthly Review
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Einstein was a physicist, not a politician and wisely turned down the presidency of Israel. What he has to say about Socialism makes as much sense as asking his opinions on popular music.

To understand Socialism we have to look at where it's been attempted and then what happened. Those who are still Socialists will claim that these tragedies were never "real" Socialism, and so they continue to want another stab at it, despite its dreadful history.

If you like Socialism go live in a commune and see how long that lasts.
 
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