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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    And Obama was proposing debt reduction of over $4 trillion. But if Obama layed a golden egg on the White House lawn republicans would accuse him of trying to undercut gold miners....

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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Tea Party is in fact why we're risking the first downgrade of our credit rating in 100 years as they've forced a nonsensical showdown over the debt limit and boxed in republicans with silly pledges. Spending cuts were inevitable with or without the tea party.
    I don't remember them being on board with TARP, Obamacare, Obama's Stimulus plan, cash for clunkers, etc. etc.

    But really, it's all up to Obama whether he wants to sign some piece of legislation, or if he wants to be the first President to default on our obligations, starve government, or leave seniors in the cold because we didn't raise the upper tax bracket by 3% or somesuch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And Obama was proposing debt reduction of over $4 trillion. But if Obama layed a golden egg on the White House lawn republicans would accuse him of trying to undercut gold miners....
    Can you link the proposal? Better yet, the CBO analysis.

    If not, he may as well be promising to lay golden eggs.
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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    This whole thing is just a song and dance routine. Anything that's going to cut the deficit "over 10 years" is a load of ****. They'll just put the spending back in later when the politics change. Plus, in 10 years, the deficit will probably have increased by another 10 trillion or so, so it doesn't make a difference anyway.
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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Can you link the proposal? Better yet, the CBO analysis.

    If not, he may as well be promising to lay golden eggs.
    No, the deal was never finalized. There wasn't much point in doing that when Boehner told him point blank that he wouldn't support it and it couldn't pass the House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, the deal was never finalized. There wasn't much point in doing that when Boehner told him point blank that he wouldn't support it and it couldn't pass the House.
    Wouldn't support what? Again, do you have some kind of link to this proposal?

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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Wouldn't support what? Again, do you have some kind of link to this proposal?
    We would have found out what was in it only after it was passed.

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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The Tea Party is in fact why we're risking the first downgrade of our credit rating in 100 years as they've forced a nonsensical showdown over the debt limit and boxed in republicans with silly pledges. Spending cuts were inevitable with or without the tea party.
    In another way to look at it, one could say that that the silly showdown would never have occurred under pelosi and reid, because they would have just raised the limit with no cuts. Spending cuts were in no way going to happen with them in charge. Last November, the american people changed the game. This is a good thing.

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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The teabaggers dont know what they're talking about. They want the govt to keeps its' hands off their Medicare
    Always with the veiled insults, eh? Could you post a link to your statement, I'm not familiar with that quote.

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    Re: Boehner issues blunt warning to debt dissenters

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Both plans are undesirable, but to get the facts straight:

    Reid's plan purports to cut 2.2 trillion but puts us 2.7 trillion further in debt, so it's really a $500 billion dollar spending plan that would cover Obama through 2012.

    Boehner's (revised) plan cuts 917 billion to put us 900 billion further in debt. It provides next to nothing in real cuts, but only takes us into next Spring, when he'll ask for an additional 1.8 trillion in cuts to raise the ceiling.

    1 trillion (45%) of Reid's "cuts" are attributed to "winding down the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan." That's going to happen anyway, so if you factor that out, as the CBO did - Reid's plan reduces outlays by $750 billion, whereas the CBO predicted an 851 billion dollar reduction for Boehner's plan.CNN: Reid debt ceiling plan comes up short - Jul. 27, 2011
    As I said in the OP, spending on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of the overall deficit. America wants these wars to draw down. We may be pulling troops out, but we still have a significant military presence in both theaters. As such, I'd think you'd want spending to be capped in this area if for no other reason than to show that the President is serious about bringing these wars to an end. I see this as being part of spending cuts in the Defense Department budget which both sides have said they support. Moreover, both sides recognize the financial burden these wars have had on our nation's economy. As such, both sides want these wars to end. I really don't see a problem with Reid's plan incorporating capping spending here.

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