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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    China just announced their Aircraft carrier...if that isnt a threat to us NOTHING IS....and they just told the USA to stop the spy planes...any one else feel a sense of forboding over china....oh and THANK YOU AMERICAN GREEDY CORPORATIONS for creating our biggest threat..

    China refitting aircraft carrier body for research, training

    China tells US to halt spy plane flights: report - Yahoo! News

    None of you conservative corporatist cheerleaders can convince me corporations havent become a scourge on this country and the working class for GREED...
    I used to buy all the bs just like YOU guys for decades...but how in the world cant you see whats going on right under your nose

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    GE moving X-ray business to China - The Boston Globe

    The business climate is not conducive to expansion or growth especially with the threat of higher taxes on profits.

    BTW China has a growing middle class not slaves.
    Why isn't the business climate conducive to growth? If our government did the right thing by the U.S. workers (and I'm not talking about or defending unions here so don't lump me in with the nutty progressives screaming pro union nonsense) and levied tariffs on Chinese products such that the U.S. market has an opportunity to compete again, we might find that sending jobs to China to produce cheap **** that breaks every 3-5 years and must be replaced isn't such a good idea. What the current environment does is extend this idea of an endless consumerism. American's have to re-purchase electronics, appliances, etc. every 3-5 years now because the products we buy from China a.) are made not to last b.) are made not to be fixed or at best, fixed at a price that is less than purchasing new and c.)are meant to maximize profit at the cost of quality.

    Were tariffs applied to make a new U.S. company or manufacturer or even other worldwide manufacturers who have a better product competitive, the amount of consumerism may actually level off. Ikari had it right, the level of slave labor in China is too attractive - so why not maximize profits and move production there if the President and U.S. government will continue to hold the door open? The companies can't complain because they get repeat customers buying **** products ever 3-5 years instead of creating good to great products which are fixable and would last 10-20 years. The middle class is not working the mass production line putting together cheap electronic components... they are the middle management now extending and expanding the slave labor class in China while exploiting them for profit.... it's not the profit I have a problem with, it's the exploitation and the U.S. consumer suffering for it. I'd rather see China have to compete on a level playing ground.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Proof there's more to economics the current recession than taxes and government action, whoever says its only because we have such high taxes needs this as a reality check.
    Absolutely. A business environment is more than just about narrow dimensions of tax and regulatory policy. Access to skilled workers, comparative national advantages, competitive clusters, structural market conditions, etc., all are important. The U.S. is producing relatively fewer science/engineering graduates than its overseas competitors. U.S. educational attainment has flatlined even as it is growing in various OECD countries. In an increasingly knowledge-intensive global economy, such an outcome poses a significant threat to U.S. competitiveness. In addition, long-term, U.S. macroeconomic growth prospects, including domestic demand conditions, have worsened. For some companies, it makes more competitive sense to relocate parts of their operations abroad. Failure to do so could undermine their own comeptitiveness down the road. Barring fundamental reforms that address U.S. weaknesses and threats facing the U.S., including its erosion of competitiveness in some sectors, such stories could become more commonplace, especially as capital flows shift to more attractive economies (raising the cost of capital/eroding economic profits).
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And your solution is protectionism?
    If imposing tariffs on companies that outsource to exploit dirt cheap labor and lack of safety and environmental laws so that American companies can actually compete with foreign ones is protectionism then so be it.Other than reworking the trade agreements requiring participating parties to pay their workers what they would pay Americans and adhere to the same worker safety and environmental laws then tariffs is the only other solution. I suppose that if you see nothing wrong with manufacturing jobs leaving the US, the US being at the mercy of these countries that manufacture, unpatriotic, and could care less about the fact we are literally aiding one the largest communist countries in the world then I suppose unrestricted outsourcing is a good thing to you. Our elected officials should not have allowed this to happen and should not be encouraging it.If our elected officials suppose to benifit anyone it should be we Americans.
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I do not think it unreasonable to add tariffs and such to account for differences in environmental and labor laws. Clean companies and fairly paid employees are expensive.
    We were warned about this leading up to the passing of the various free trade agreements. When a company like GE is doing business around the world they have to compete with the likes of Germany and Japan for these types of markets. If they leave manufacturing in the United States their equiment will cost much more and eventually their market share will shrink to zero and the X-ray division of GE will no longer exist. So there goes all of your jobs anyway. We have to do something about this but what?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, they don't wanna pay good wages and support the social constructs of the country. However, if they make bad decisions again and tank, they will not think twice to take MORE of our money to bail out their asses. We've given them enough, time to pay the piper.
    Did GE get bailout money?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Did GE get bailout money?
    Yes

    GE Capital received a large amount
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    China just announced their Aircraft carrier...if that isnt a threat to us NOTHING IS....and they just told the USA to stop the spy planes...any one else feel a sense of forboding over china....oh and THANK YOU AMERICAN GREEDY CORPORATIONS for creating our biggest threat..

    China refitting aircraft carrier body for research, training

    China tells US to halt spy plane flights: report - Yahoo! News

    None of you conservative corporatist cheerleaders can convince me corporations havent become a scourge on this country and the working class for GREED...
    I used to buy all the bs just like YOU guys for decades...but how in the world cant you see whats going on right under your nose
    We're welcoming those greedy corporations up here in Canada and lowered the corporate tax to actually encourage them to set up shop here.

    Call us crazy but we've found that corporations usually mean more jobs and thus more revenues coming in. The Chinese. those people who lent you so much money until it became too much of a risk, must be crazy too.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Did GE get bailout money?
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    How could it be anything else? Maybe if we paid them to stay here? And provided some slave labor of our own?
    GE is in buisness to make a profit. can you blame them for not wanting to pay unskilled US workers $10-$15 an hour when they can pay unskilled chinese workers pennies a day?

    look what happened to the mom & pops and the corner 5 and dimes once wallyworld came along. how many US consumers were willing to keep paying higher prices to keep mom and pop in business when they could get the same goods much cheaper from Sam Walton?
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