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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Fair enough. But the reality is still that this trend in global business to favor China is something beyond anyone's control, its just the free market at work and business seeking lower operating costs. It goes well beyond government involvement and into what individual people will accept as a job. On top of that do we really want to reduce ourselves to wage levels in China just so we can compete for these types of industries? Because mind you that its not all industry that moving, its mostly industry that relies on an uneducated work force. The unemployment rate for people who have bachelor's or master's degrees in the US is still very low, the way to compete in the future is education and jobs/careers which require education.
    I certainly don't think that we need to compete on the same salary level as China, but at the same time unions negotiating $75 per hour for a guy that cleans toilets, gets 3 weeks of paid vacation a year and only works 40 hours a week isn't going to come close to competing and maybe they need to take a realistic look at that. Kinda like that movie, "Gungho", with Michael Keaton,

    Union hand #1: "We were getting $20 per hour"

    Union hand #2: "We been getting nothing".

    Basically, they can get a little less, or they can get nothing.

    What I see is this, either we get more educated and get more competitive. OR we slash wages, government benefits, safety standards etc, work conditions, our standard of living and march back into the 20's in terms of wages, benefits, standards etc just to compete with China and other developing economies. Well we'll undoubtedly have to do a bit of both, some slashing but invest in education as much as we can. That way we can preserve our standard of living and continue to increase it because we'll have the skills and knowledge to justify it, and yes we'll have to buy toasters from China.

    What we need to do, is get the government out of the private sector. It's been obvious that government involvement in the private sector is never going to work.

    You can educate all the mother****ers you want, but until the government stops trying fix everything that isn't broken, nothings going to get better.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I certainly don't think that we need to compete on the same salary level as China, but at the same time unions negotiating $75 per hour for a guy that cleans toilets, gets 3 weeks of paid vacation a year and only works 40 hours a week isn't going to come close to competing and maybe they need to take a realistic look at that. Kinda like that movie, "Gungho", with Michael Keaton,

    Union hand #1: "We were getting $20 per hour"

    Union hand #2: "We been getting nothing".

    Basically, they can get a little less, or they can get nothing.




    What we need to do, is get the government out of the private sector. It's been obvious that government involvement in the private sector is never going to work.

    You can educate all the mother****ers you want, but until the government stops trying fix everything that isn't broken, nothings going to get better.
    75$ dollars an hour to clean toilets? where can one apply for this job?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post


    Wasn't/Isn't G.E.ís chief executive, Jeffrey Immelt, the chairman of the Presidentís Council on Jobs and Competitiveness? I guess he's getting out before he has to start paying taxes. This should be great for the 2012 campaign. Even paying no taxes could keep Obama's business buddy from moving business interests to China.

    GE's slogan should read: Progress to China is our most important product.

    Wait this is Obama's fault how?
    But hey whatever floats your boat...
    But seriously "communism" must really suck cuz they got all our jobs... Just kidding China is not communist..
    But seriously welcome to the "free" market, and the wonderful world of capitalism! Ship jobs to China for cheap labor and skip out on American taxes while the rich profit....


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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    75$ dollars an hour to clean toilets? where can one apply for this job?
    Job does not exist, people when they find themselves loosing an argument often times pull random numbers and facts out of their ass...


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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Why do great nations fail? Reality check here folks...

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Job does not exist, people when they find themselves loosing an argument often times pull random numbers and facts out of their ass...
    dammit man, i knew it was too good to be true....

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I can't blame the company one bit for taking the money, if the government is stupid enough to give it to them.

    It's like when your wife cheats on you. Who do you blame the most? Him for taking the pussy, or her for giving it up, to begin with? I would place most of the blame with her.
    Yes, but at the same accord we hear the same tired montra of "punishing the rich" and if we just gave more "tax breaks" we'd get more jobs. But that didn't pan out, did it? They took our money and then when they were in the place to repay, they renigged instead. So **** them. Next time, their company can suffer the slings and arrows of the economy and if they come running again with their hands out, we should tell them "tough titties". Let the market kill them off, there will be another company to take its place. Too big to fail? We shall see.
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I do not think it unreasonable to add tariffs and such to account for differences in environmental and labor laws. Clean companies and fairly paid employees are expensive.
    That would certainly be one way to deal with this issue. I figured it would be better to make adherence to our environmental laws a condition of doing business in the world's biggest economy, but this is probably a more practical solution.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    dammit man, i knew it was too good to be true....
    I would take that job too but it certainly does not exist...


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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    75$ dollars an hour to clean toilets? where can one apply for this job?
    Join the UAW. Obama bailed them out, so you oughta be good to go.

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