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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    We could look at the number of home owners over the years. Maybe the number of cars owned by somebody? I am sure that has risen as well.
    We could. But, even that would be skewed by the glut we have of such things and by the ability to borrow beyond our means.


    Inequality does not prove that people are worse off:
    400-200 = 200
    1000 - 201 = 799
    201 > 200
    Technically correct, but a sign of a trend. An important trend.

    The projects and Indian Reservations make up a very small portion of the US, but I would bet that they have even improved over the past 20-30 years of economic liberalization. Even if they have not, it is hard to despute for the broad majority, over 95%, our lives have been made better off, not worse off over the years.
    Missed the point. They have computers, TVs, and cars. You should visit and make a judgment on how well off they are.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your standard is trinkets?
    and yours is pink slipping EVERY teacher in detroit?

    Once $100 sneakers were status. Only to the very poor.
    last tuesday, from census data:

    Modern Poverty Includes A.C. and an Xbox - By Ken McIntyre - The Corner - National Review Online

    98% of americans below the poverty line have a tv, 82% have a microwave, 78% air conditioning, 71% a vcr, 65% a second tv, 65% a dvd, 64% cable, 55% a cell phone

    on the other hand, only 38% have a personal computer, only 33% have a third tv, 29% internet, 28% a printer

    and only 18% have a big flat screen tv

    we gotta do something about those numbers under 50%

    who among us can go a week without a printer

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    BTW, I can intorduce you to people who have those things, but not runnig water, or indoor toliets, or adequate health care, or in some cases, enough food. Foolishly mistakeing one thing for the other is your error. It is more than possible to have those things, and still be poor, still be worse off.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    BTW, I can intorduce you to people who have those things, but not runnig water, or indoor toliets, or adequate health care, or in some cases, enough food. Foolishly mistakeing one thing for the other is your error. It is more than possible to have those things, and still be poor, still be worse off.
    OK, I will admit health care is a failing market in my opinion. However, indoor plumbing I am sure has been reaching almost universal levels for some time now. You are literally arguing against free trade because of a fraction of a percent of Americans are doing poorly for reasons you cannot even prove.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    BTW, I can intorduce (sic) you to people who have those things, but not runnig (sic) water, or indoor toliets(sic)
    well, if they got internet, cable and a cell phone...

    maybe some of em should rethink

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    adequate health care
    well, since you brought it up

    the famous uva study cited by the asa finds that americans with NO INSURANCE actually fare better (lower costs, shorter stays, reduced mortalities) than their less fortunate neighbors whose primary pay status is medicaid, the ghetto of american health care

    ASA: ASA 130th Annual Meeting Abstracts - Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality For Major Surgical Operations

    that's, of course, AFTER controlling for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, as most informed americans recalls

    just the facts, folks

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    well, since you brought it up

    the famous uva study cited by the asa finds that americans with NO INSURANCE actually fare better (lower costs, shorter stays, reduced mortalities) than their less fortunate neighbors whose primary pay status is medicaid, the ghetto of american health care

    ASA: ASA 130th Annual Meeting Abstracts - Primary Payer Status Affects Mortality For Major Surgical Operations

    that's, of course, AFTER controlling for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, as most informed americans recalls

    just the facts, folks
    I do wish you understood what you posted. We might actually be able to talk then. Oh well, . . . moving on.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    OK, I will admit health care is a failing market in my opinion. However, indoor plumbing I am sure has been reaching almost universal levels for some time now. You are literally arguing against free trade because of a fraction of a percent of Americans are doing poorly for reasons you cannot even prove.
    I can take you places where it isn't there. Lived a year in such a place.

    But no, I'm trying to get you to see something. You insist that one time purchases, that can be had in a number of varying ways, means we're not worse off today. That simply isn't the case, so I point to clear examples of people having these things you mention, but who are not doing well. It is to address only your contention that having these things means they are not worse off.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm trying to get you to see something.
    then you need facts

    why don't you link us to comedy central?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    BTW, I can intorduce you to people who have those things, but not runnig water, or indoor toliets, or adequate health care, or in some cases, enough food. Foolishly mistakeing one thing for the other is your error. It is more than possible to have those things, and still be poor, still be worse off.
    Poor choices?

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