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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

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    This is why I am against outsourcing. Free trade just allows everyone to trade jobs and manufacturing to China.
    I do not think it unreasonable to add tariffs and such to account for differences in environmental and labor laws. Clean companies and fairly paid employees are expensive.
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    And people wonder why there no jobs to be had in America anymore. Corporate America is flushing our future down the drain.
    We had lots of good oilfield jobs. What happened to them?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Proof there's more to economics the current recession than taxes and government action, whoever says its only because we have such high taxes needs this as a reality check.
    How much social security and medicare is GE having to match in China, ya think?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I don't think Obama is anymore interested in American jobs than Bush was. They all wanna protect their big corporate buddies out there.
    Money talks. Sadly.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How much social security and medicare is GE having to match in China, ya think?
    Yeah, they don't wanna pay good wages and support the social constructs of the country. However, if they make bad decisions again and tank, they will not think twice to take MORE of our money to bail out their asses. We've given them enough, time to pay the piper.
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I don't think Obama is anymore interested in American jobs than Bush was. They all wanna protect their big corporate buddies out there.
    That's the way it seems. I guess we've all been Scrooged.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    That's the way it seems. I guess we've all been Scrooged.

    Essentially. Wait to see if they mess up again and need another pay out from the good ol' American tax payer. They have no shame running to government, palms turned towards the sky. They'll take as much of our money as they can get away with, then ship jobs over seas and not pay back into the public coffers from which they (and many others) so frequently dip.

    If we're using the power of government to ensure the success and longevity of these companies; to see them through bad times and use tax payer dollars to keep them afloat at great rates that will not have to be paid back; well perhaps they should be paying for that privilege. That's not free market, free market would say Adios Amigo! Corporate capitalism facilitated through force and power of State keeps them going even when things turn bad. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. If they don't want to be held to the consequences of their actions and the fickle winds of the economy, then we should get a little something something in return.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How much social security and medicare is GE having to match in China, ya think?
    Fair enough. But the reality is still that this trend in global business to favor China is something beyond anyone's control, its just the free market at work and business seeking lower operating costs. It goes well beyond government involvement and into what individual people will accept as a job. On top of that do we really want to reduce ourselves to wage levels in China just so we can compete for these types of industries? Because mind you that its not all industry that moving, its mostly industry that relies on an uneducated work force. The unemployment rate for people who have bachelor's or master's degrees in the US is still very low, the way to compete in the future is education and jobs/careers which require education.

    What I see is this, either we get more educated and get more competitive. OR we slash wages, government benefits, safety standards etc, work conditions, our standard of living and march back into the 20's in terms of wages, benefits, standards etc just to compete with China and other developing economies. Well we'll undoubtedly have to do a bit of both, some slashing but invest in education as much as we can. That way we can preserve our standard of living and continue to increase it because we'll have the skills and knowledge to justify it, and yes we'll have to buy toasters from China.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, they don't wanna pay good wages and support the social constructs of the country. However, if they make bad decisions again and tank, they will not think twice to take MORE of our money to bail out their asses. We've given them enough, time to pay the piper.
    I can't blame the company one bit for taking the money, if the government is stupid enough to give it to them.

    It's like when your wife cheats on you. Who do you blame the most? Him for taking the pussy, or her for giving it up, to begin with? I would place most of the blame with her.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Essentially. Wait to see if they mess up again and need another pay out from the good ol' American tax payer. They have no shame running to government, palms turned towards the sky. They'll take as much of our money as they can get away with, then ship jobs over seas and not pay back into the public coffers from which they (and many others) so frequently dip.

    If we're using the power of government to ensure the success and longevity of these companies; to see them through bad times and use tax payer dollars to keep them afloat at great rates that will not have to be paid back; well perhaps they should be paying for that privilege. That's not free market, free market would say Adios Amigo! Corporate capitalism facilitated through force and power of State keeps them going even when things turn bad. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. If they don't want to be held to the consequences of their actions and the fickle winds of the economy, then we should get a little something something in return.
    I stopped buying GE products some time ago for political reasons. I will certainly continue my one man boycott of their goods.
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