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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I was once on that world trade band wagon. Can't really call yourself patriotic if you support the outsourcing of American jobs and leaving us at the mercy of countries that do manufacture especially to communist countries. There is the fact that since companies are outsourcing to China they are building China up, which means china can spend more money on their military and be a bigger thread to us.
    Well you can triple the tariffs on a pair of shoes, for example. so that the consumer pays three times more for the product than they usually would. Somebody has to pay. Tariffs are usually just a form of protectionism (or a money grab) and works against the economy of those installing the tariffs. It might make us feel safer over the very short term but reality inevitably intrudes on these dreams.

    Americans can compete with anyone, and have demonstrated that for decades. But they have to look at the policies and revisit the ideas that made them that way.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Blame? Well, then you have to be willing to accept third world living standards here. You can't have a high standard of living and then say business is right to leave so they can get third worl labor for pennies. Like I said, it's a bit of a moral issue.

    And yes, many were short sighted. Many pay for cheap prices but forget they are sliting their own throats. However, that doesn't change that both are still wrong. My friend may be correct in that we are mexicanizng the US, making the division greater between rich and poor and brining back low, low, low wages. But we can't blame anyone.
    What you seem to be saying is that the Americans, with an unparalleled history of innovation and invention, cannot now compete in a changing world.

    It seems your education system, as well as your leadership of course, really needs an overhaul.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What you seem to be saying is that the Americans, with an unparalleled history of innovation and invention, cannot now compete in a changing world.

    It seems your education system, as well as your leadership of course, really needs an overhaul.
    Compete? If we were speaking of innovation and invention, I would agree with you that we can. But we're not. We're talking about salary for that. To compete in that arena, we must take less, less pay, less benefits, less good living. I'm asking if we really want to compete in that way?

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    My friend may be correct in that we are mexicanizng the US, making the division greater between rich and poor and brining back low, low, low wages.
    isn't your chin stroking chum the cholo who suggested american workers were overpaid?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    A friend of mind here at the school calls it the Mexicization of America, in which we bring workers here to the level of the worker in Mexico. He maintains that only that will ever bring corporations that choose to leave here back.
    hmm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Like I said, it's a bit of a moral issue.
    not for hundreds of action oriented municipal execs in cities, counties and capitols across the country---like robert bobb in detroit---reacting to crises

    no hamlet, he

    the cuomos and rahm emanuels of our times, morevoer, appear rather aggressively to agree with your amigo

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What you seem to be saying is that the Americans, with an unparalleled history of innovation and invention, cannot now compete in a changing world.

    It seems your education system, as well as your leadership of course, really needs an overhaul.
    It's not that so much. It's the fact that too many are taking the path of least resistance. But it's not this simple either. Far too complicated than can be covered easily.....LOL

    It's far easier to simply move overseas than to do the things necessary to compete. Unfortunately when a company like Boeing attempts to do that, they are met with resistance from the government. Everyone has to give some to compete for awhile. Nobody wants to look at the long term picture.

    In the long term picture, China will have to pay higher wage prices. It's simple human nature. Putting this many people to work gives them access to the outside world and they are going to demand a piece of that pie. Damn lot of good that does if all of our manufacturing is over there by then though.
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Originally Posted by Boo Radley
    A friend of mind here at the school calls it the Mexicization of America, in which we bring workers here to the level of the worker in Mexico.
    well, since most of the workers here came from mexico....
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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Compete? If we were speaking of innovation and invention, I would agree with you that we can. But we're not. We're talking about salary for that. To compete in that arena, we must take less, less pay, less benefits, less good living. I'm asking if we really want to compete in that way?
    Americans have always competed very well in the past, why not now?

    As mentioned, other countries are competing quite well while the living standards, compared to the Americans, are increasing.

    The complaints you've outlined are not the problem, but your attitude certainly plays a part.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    We were warned about this leading up to the passing of the various free trade agreements. When a company like GE is doing business around the world they have to compete with the likes of Germany and Japan for these types of markets. If they leave manufacturing in the United States their equiment will cost much more and eventually their market share will shrink to zero and the X-ray division of GE will no longer exist. So there goes all of your jobs anyway. We have to do something about this but what?
    Except Germany and Japan aren't shipping all their jobs to China

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    It's not that so much. It's the fact that too many are taking the path of least resistance. But it's not this simple either. Far too complicated than can be covered easily.....LOL

    It's far easier to simply move overseas than to do the things necessary to compete. Unfortunately when a company like Boeing attempts to do that, they are met with resistance from the government. Everyone has to give some to compete for awhile. Nobody wants to look at the long term picture.

    In the long term picture, China will have to pay higher wage prices. It's simple human nature. Putting this many people to work gives them access to the outside world and they are going to demand a piece of that pie. Damn lot of good that does if all of our manufacturing is over there by then though.
    There are opportunities everywhere, now more than ever, and Americans used to be the best in finding them. Now they've become spoiled and expect everything to be handed to them, an idea that would once have been unthinkable to their independent nature

    I hope they'll find the inspiration to rise above their malaise. They did once before but with each generation it seems to become more difficult.

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    Re: GE moving X-ray business to China

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I was once on that world trade band wagon. Can't really call yourself patriotic if you support the outsourcing of American jobs and leaving us at the mercy of countries that do manufacture especially to communist countries. There is the fact that since companies are outsourcing to China they are building China up, which means china can spend more money on their military and be a bigger thread to us.
    Yeah, basically Communism is winning the economic ideology war right now...

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