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    Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Militar

    Makes me wonder how "Obama Been Lying" would respond to the use of Allah in prayers? No big deal I'm thinking.

    Is this tolerance?

    The First Amendment does not say a word about not praying or Using God or our money would not have God on every bill, oaths of office would not say so help me God.

    It says "Congress shall not establish a religion," it doesn't say we can't use God.

    I hope Obama keeps being a dumb-ass and doing things that will piss off Military families, active duty military, Christians, anyone who can think, because it will help kick his sorry worthless ass on on the street where he belongs.



    Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Military Funerals - FoxNews.com
    A Texas lawmaker is calling for a congressional investigation of the Houston National Cemetery after he went undercover and determined that cemetery officials are still preventing Christian prayers at the funerals of military veterans.

    “The Obama administration continues to try to prevent the word ‘God’ from being used at the funerals of our heroes,” said. Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas).
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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    It's very foolish, particularly for funerals which is what this is about, right? There, whatever god the individual believed in should be allowed to be prayed to. Be it the Christian God, Allah, Buddah, Lion-o, or Lord Xenu - protector of the Universe.
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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    The 2012 election to vote the Libbos out of office can't come soon enough.

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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    From the article:


    “The idea that invoking the name of God or Jesus is banned at VA national cemeteries is blatantly false,” said VA Press Secretary Josh Taylor in a written statement to Fox News Radio. “The truth is, VA’s policy protects veterans’ families’ rights to pray however they choose at our national cemeteries.”

    Read more: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Military Funerals - FoxNews.com

    And can anyone show me a factual link to Obama in all this?

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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    From the article:


    “The idea that invoking the name of God or Jesus is banned at VA national cemeteries is blatantly false,” said VA Press Secretary Josh Taylor in a written statement to Fox News Radio. “The truth is, VA’s policy protects veterans’ families’ rights to pray however they choose at our national cemeteries.”

    Read more: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Military Funerals - FoxNews.com

    And can anyone show me a factual link to Obama in all this?
    Let me guess: it's just a coincidence?

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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Makes me wonder how "Obama Been Lying" would respond to the use of Allah in prayers? No big deal I'm thinking.
    Is this tolerance?
    The First Amendment does not say a word about not praying or Using God or our money would not have God on every bill, oaths of office would not say so help me God.
    It says "Congress shall not establish a religion," it doesn't say we can't use God.
    I hope Obama keeps being a dumb-ass and doing things that will piss off Military families, active duty military, Christians, anyone who can think, because it will help kick his sorry worthless ass on on the street where he belongs.
    Actually the 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

    And if you read the full article it clearly states several times that the policy at the cemetery is to ASK what the family would like to see, would they like to hear a prayer to God in their service? Then its perfectly acceptable. No one is banning the use of prayer, the only thing they are doing is trying to ensure that the service is done the way the family would like to see it done.

    On top of that do you really believe Obama is personally overseeing the use of prayer at a single national cemetery? On top of that, are we still going to keep claiming he's a secret muslim? On top of that, I'm in the military and I have a military family, and we aren't pissed off at all. On top of that, I'm a Christian and I'm not pissed off either.

    So since I know you won't actually read your article he's the two biggest things I saw:
    “The idea that invoking the name of God or Jesus is banned at VA national cemeteries is blatantly false,” said VA Press Secretary Josh Taylor in a written statement to Fox News Radio. “The truth is, VA’s policy protects veterans’ families’ rights to pray however they choose at our national cemeteries.”
    “He quite correctly said as a Texan and a man of honor and integrity, ‘I’m not bothering that poor woman at this most terrible time of her life. We’re going to do the ritual,’” Culberson said. “Right in front of me, the VA directly and deliberately attempted to prevent the VFW from doing their magnificent, spiritual ritual over the grave of this fallen hero."
    He's not angry that prayer is banned, because it isn't, he's angry that Christian prayer is not the norm. What I see is a man who would rather not ask the family what they want at their family member's funeral, and instead just go with a Christian prayer.

    Besides whenever someone talks like this "“It makes my skin crawl that liberals are attempting to drive prayer out of a funeral ceremony for our heroes,” Culberson said. “We’re going to fix this so that no Obama liberal bureaucrat will interfere with the funeral of a hero.” It should probably send up a few warning signs, this kind of non-descript, generalized, but very passionate hatred is something that screams ignorance.

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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let me guess: it's just a coincidence?
    I don't think it was an unreasonable request. Did Obama have something to do with the banning of religious prayer in the VA cemeteries? Can this be demonstrated?
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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let me guess: it's just a coincidence?
    First, not sure it is even true. But, I see no evidence linking Obama to anything going on there. Do you have any?

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    Re: Texas Lawmaker Calls for Congressional Probe Into Ban of Christian Prayers at Mil

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let me guess: it's just a coincidence?
    Two things happening at the same time cannot be a coincidence? They must be linked or one must cause the other? Really, do you really want to go down that road of logic? Because it ends with "Well Venus is bright in the sky tonight and THERE"S NO WAY its a coincidence that I found a 20 dollar bill on the ground"

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