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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Like many of his fellow GOP upstarts, Walsh is vehemently opposed to the President's agenda. Walsh posted a video on his House website that accused the President of misleading senior citizens about the possibility that Social Security checks could be delayed if the U.S. hits the debt ceiling.

    "President Obama, quit lying," Walsh said in the video.

    It's that kind of rhetoric that has veterans of past budget battles in Washington bracing for the worst. Alice Rivlin, a former member of President Obama's debt commission, believes the tea partiers in the GOP House are out to "frustrate" the president at every turn.

    "I have never seen anything like this. I think it's very scary and very embarrassing for our system of government," Rivlin told CNN.
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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    From the WashingtonTimes.com:



    Seems the failed leadership is on Speaker Boehner.
    How many democrats voted for the ONLY budget proposal Obama has ever submitted? What was the vote in the senate again...something to ZERO...something...90...something...97...wasnt it? 97 to ZERO...That there is some high quality leadership booooyyyy! And how many budgets did the democrats even PROPOSE during Pelosi's reign...ummm...ZERO...that number again.

    look...no one has the high ground here. Yes...it was foolish to state that what...7 democrats voting for the Cap Cut and Balance legislation was bi-partisan. However...wasnt the Boehner-Reid agreement pretty much a joint effort?

    And...side note...thank GOD for republican congressmen that dont just cave on positions they believe in. Why...that trend keeps up we might actually have a legislature that is people and principle and not PARTY driven.

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    I guess so, since Boehner had to check with Rush Limbaugh to find out what his next move should be! Republican leaders are relying on "radio talk show hosts" to tell them what they should do - that's comforting to know! Doesn't speak well for "Speaker of the House" - can you imagine the backlash if Obama were to check with Bill Maher to tell him what to do! Unbelievable!

    Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) outlined the GOP's debt-ceiling plan to conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh on Monday before showing it to his conference.

    On Monday during his radio program, Limbaugh talked about the call he received from Boehner…

    John Boehner Checks in with His Boss Rush Limbaugh Before Presenting Debt Plan | Indecision Forever | Political Humor and Satire Blog | 2012 Election | Comedy Central




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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    How many democrats voted for the ONLY budget proposal Obama has ever submitted? What was the vote in the senate again...something to ZERO...something...90...something...97...wasnt it? 97 to ZERO...That there is some high quality leadership booooyyyy! And how many budgets did the democrats even PROPOSE during Pelosi's reign...ummm...ZERO...that number again.

    look...no one has the high ground here. Yes...it was foolish to state that what...7 democrats voting for the Cap Cut and Balance legislation was bi-partisan. However...wasnt the Boehner-Reid agreement pretty much a joint effort?

    And...side note...thank GOD for republican congressmen that dont just cave on positions they believe in. Why...that trend keeps up we might actually have a legislature that is people and principle and not PARTY driven.
    You mean like the Republican party's plan to make President Obama a one-term president at all cost even if it means bringing down the nation's economy? That plan?

    As to the Senate vote against the President's budget, as I've stated in this thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice
    rejected in the Senate not because it wasn't serious, but because for Republicans it called for eliminating the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy - something the GOP will not back away from - and the Dems learned of the President's intentions to propose still more spending cuts and would rather have seen the high cost cuts take affect than what was originally proposed.

    So, take the President's February budget of $1 trillion in spending cuts and leave an additional $2-3 trillion on the table, or reject the President's plan and seek more cuts? Which would you choose? Of course a plan that was proposed in February but wasn't brought to a vote until May would be rejected if the 2nd plan was better. Who wouldn't accept the latter over the former?
    For more details, see this article from the Hill:

    The president’s budget called for ending tax cuts for the wealthy and a three-year domestic spending freeze, saving an estimated $1.1 trillion over 10 years. Democratic senators at the time called it “an important step forward”, “a good start” and a “credible blueprint.”

    No Democratic senator was willing to support it, however, after Obama discussed a more ambitious plan at George Washington University to save $4 trillion over 12 years. Republicans criticized his speech for lacking detail.
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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    This is just another show of far right Demanding nutjob teapartiers....they are going to crash and burn eventually with the american people

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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Hell …. the only house of government to pass any bill …. has been the Cap Cut and Balance legislation …. so the republicans have done their job, I guess what we should do is to urge the senate to follow the lead of democrats like Pelosi..... and the health care bill … you remember .. she said “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy. “

    Well lets just go ahead and pass the Cap Cut and Balance bill … hell don't have to worry about reading it or nothing like that .. we can find out what's in it later .. there problem solved .. the way the democrats like it solved.

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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    As I've stated in this thread:

    For more details, see this article from the Hill:
    So again...NO democrats voted for it, right? I mean...since the hackish intent of the OP was to insinuate Boehner is a piss poor leader because he couldnt get ENOUGH GOP to vote for it, the fact that NO democrat would so much as take one for their leader and only 3 merely abstained...that speaks VOLUMES about his leadership...right?

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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    But here's the difference, VanceMack: The Dems would have voted for the President's budget if he hadn't presented them with a better alternative (indirectly though it was presented), whereas the Speaker's bill was rejected out-of-hand. Just so we're clear on what really happened and why:

    The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to reject a $3.7 trillion budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol Hill in February.

    Ninety-seven senators voted against a motion to take it up.

    Democratic aides said ahead of the vote that the Democratic caucus would not support the plan because it has been supplanted by the deficit-reduction plan Obama outlined at a speech at George Washington University in April.
    Taken directly from the Hill article linked above. Had you bothered to read it, you wouldn't have come back with such a lame retort. Still, let's not get it twisted.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 07-26-11 at 09:28 PM.

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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    So again...NO democrats voted for it, right? I mean...since the hackish intent of the OP was to insinuate Boehner is a piss poor leader because he couldnt get ENOUGH GOP to vote for it, the fact that NO democrat would so much as take one for their leader and only 3 merely abstained...that speaks VOLUMES about his leadership...right?
    Dems didn't vote for it because it had already been revised by the administration. It only came up for a vote because republicans were moping over the rejection of Ryan's nutty budget.

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    Re: House GOP revolts against Boehner plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    It's not up to the President nor his Administration to put forth a debt limit or deficit reduction plan. That is and always has been the job of C-O-N-G-R-E-S-S!!!
    the party in power in upper parliament is well on three years without a budget---in times like these

    the president is the leader of his party

    Here's an article that might just help to put this debt limit debate in perspective and illustrate just how seamless this process should actually be
    the party once preferred seamless

    Harry Reid calls for clean debt ceiling vote - Meredith Shiner - POLITICO.com

    the party has moved more than six trillion dollars towards austerity since then

    april was ages ago

    The Tea Party wants entitlement reform. Why not go about the process the right way and allow Cantor to co-sponder a bill to do just that?
    House Passes Ryan's 2012 Budget Plan : NPR

    You mean like the Republican party's plan to make President Obama a one-term president at all cost even if it means bringing down the nation's economy? That plan?
    you're getting hysterical

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