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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    How about this citizen? Did he need arresting too? Did you know that citizens have the power to arrest people? Did you also know that a uniformed law enforcement officer can be legally resisted with appropriate force up to the point of lethal force if they are acting against a citizen in an unlawful manner? People seem to forget that our government is derived from the consent of the people and that's the beauty of it; We don't have to bow our heads. We are free to stand up for the rights that we have.

    I don't for a second believe that you are truly naive enough to believe that government can do no wrong...
    The law is self-correcting. The cop in your example did not kill the driver, and steps are being taken against the cop for his unlawful behaviour. Who arbitrarily decides whether or not a cop is acting within the law and resists with lethal force? Who arbitrarily decides which laws meet their aproval, and which will be resisted. You cannot be so naive as to support anarchy.
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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    majority
    Thats the word that gets you into trouble. You cant definitively make that assumption because there is zero hard evidence on militia population numbers to make a blanket statement about how they feel about anything.

    IE Hyperbole

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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    can you cite anything that tells us the majority of militias have no desire to incite revolution? that they believe in the rule of law? the media goes with what they know......and anythime militias are in the news, it's usually bad news.
    Come on, you should know better than to demand proof of a negative. Prove to me that you’re not going to die tonight. You can’t prove that something ISN’T going to happen; only that it is. So the burden of proof would seem to require you to show me that the purpose of militias IS to incite revolution. Sure, you have a few media examples of a couple dozen individuals out of the thousands of citizen militia members in this country, just like you have a few media examples of rogue LEO’s. The articles about the law abiding citizens and LEO’s don’t make for riveting news. Plain and simple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The law is self-correcting. The cop in your example did not kill the driver, and steps are being taken against the cop for his unlawful behaviour. Who arbitrarily decides whether or not a cop is acting within the law and resists with lethal force? Who arbitrarily decides which laws meet their aproval, and which will be resisted. You cannot be so naive as to support anarchy.
    You are correct. Constitutional laws are self correcting. Unconstitutional laws have no duty to be followed and are overturned. The cop would face consequences for his unlawful behavior, as would the militia, if their actions were deemed against the law. The fact that the police left that particular incident without arresting anyone should tell you something.
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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and anythime militias are in the news, it's usually bad news.
    Same can be said about a lot of things. The Catholics were in the news a lot of pedophile priests. Does that mean all the priests are boy ****ers? Or that Catholicism is bad?
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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Here's one example of a group with potential to become very dangerous: 'Arming' for Armageddon | Southern Poverty Law Center

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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Here's one example of a group with potential to become very dangerous: 'Arming' for Armageddon | Southern Poverty Law Center
    Yup, a bunch of religious teenagers not old enough to legally own weapons, who have given no evidence whatsoever of committing any acts of violence, or even been seen conducting any sort of paramilitary training. Terrifying. Personally, I find the Southern Poverty Law Center to be far more dangerous to the American people than tattooed televangelists.
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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    I agree with theangryamerican from The Wild West.
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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Not all militias are created equal. Just because you call yourself a militia doesn't mean you're what the founding fathers were referring to in terms of safeguarding the country against tyranny.

    Yes, some militia groups are really just well-armed KKK offshoots who call themselves patriots.

    Nobody has suggested that all of them are a threat, nor has anyone suggested that merely "disagreeing with the government" gives you the terrorist label.

    But when you call the president a usurper and profess a desire to overthrow a democratically elected government, you're going to get looked at more closely.
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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Socialist. View Post
    Here's one example of a group with potential to become very dangerous: 'Arming' for Armageddon | Southern Poverty Law Center
    when it comes to sensationalist pandering about Militias Morris Dees has no peer. That scum bag has used fear of "racist militias" to rake in donations to his left wing socialist outfit for years. There are racist and nihilistic militias. There are also people who saw what happened in the LA street riots where law and order evaporated as political correctness and mass rioting caused massive mayhem. That some people train to handle such "wildings" hardly makes them racist and more than a few farm communities have volunteer groups created for mutual defense in the case of an earthquake, or other disaster that could lead to lootings



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    Re: Far right domestic terrorism on par with foreign threat, experts say

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Yup, a bunch of religious teenagers not old enough to legally own weapons, who have given no evidence whatsoever of committing any acts of violence, or even been seen conducting any sort of paramilitary training. Terrifying. Personally, I find the Southern Poverty Law Center to be far more dangerous to the American people than tattooed televangelists.

    there are fewer pimps bigger than the SPLC

    they are like the brady bunch-they need to keep people in fear of something-racism, etc in order to keep the money rolling in



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