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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

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    Doesn't Pete like in Spain not Norway?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Doesn't Pete like in Spain not Norway?
    Does not make sense what you wrote, but if I try to decode it... then..

    No I am not Spanish but Danish, as from Denmark, the country south of Norway, and former colonial master of Norway. Also Norway shares many of the same laws and legal framework as Denmark, including the law of "Forvaring".

    Forvaring is only used against the most harden violent offenders that are a threat to society despite spending decades behind bars.
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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

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    Escape from maximum security prisons do happen. Inmates have 24/7 to think about what they are going to do. A guard has only 8 hours a day to think about what inmate are going to do.

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    It does happen from time to time, but not often and is declining.
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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

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    1.Because he or she murdered a innocent person.I know scumbag sympathizers do not give a **** about the victims of these monsters, but normal people do and this is one of the reasons why we punish criminals and why the death penalty exists.

    2.With the murderer dead the victim's loved ones are not paying to keep the victim's murderer alive.They are not paying for the murderer's medical bills, food or life time security to keep him alive safe and healthy.

    3.A dead murderer is someone who can not harm or murder other people.

    4. A dead murderer can not be pardoned or released for oil or to idiotic reasons like the UK did with the Lockerbie bomber.

    5. A dead murderer can not give tv interviews.

    5.A dead murderer has zero chance of escaping.
    An executed innocent person has zero chance of being released.
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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    An executed innocent person has zero chance of being released.
    Don't they get appeals and what happened to innocent UNTIL proven guilty?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    An executed innocent person has zero chance of being released.
    Yes, but an executed guilty person has zero chance of doing the crime again.
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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Does not make sense what you wrote, but if I try to decode it... then..
    I meant to say "Doesn't Pete live in Spain?."
    No I am not Spanish but Danish, as from Denmark, the country south of Norway, and former colonial master of Norway. Also Norway shares many of the same laws and legal framework as Denmark, including the law of "Forvaring".

    Forvaring is only used against the most harden violent offenders that are a threat to society despite spending decades behind bars.
    You are correct. It is called "containment".

    Life imprisonment in Norway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Yes, but an executed guilty person has zero chance of doing the crime again.
    And if the state kills an innocent person, should those involved be killed as well (it would be murder after all and premeditated as well

    In other words as has been shown to occur a few innocent people have been executed by the state for crimes they did not commit. Should not the judge, jury, and person/people involved in the execution be charged with murder and then put to death for it
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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And if the state kills an innocent person, should those involved be killed as well (it would be murder after all and premeditated as well
    In other words as has been shown to occur a few innocent people have been executed by the state for crimes they did not commit. Should not the judge, jury, and person/people involved in the execution be charged with murder and then put to death for it
    Murder is a legal term. The state accidentally killing an innocent man is not murder.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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    Re: Norway's 21-Year Maximum Penalty Sparks Outcry After Terror Attacks That Killed 7

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    I feel like the 8th amendment should be brought up at least to refresh everyone's memory of it.

    Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
    Cruel means not using torture.

    Unusual punishments inflicted does not apply to the DP as it has been around for thousands and thousands of years.
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