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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Boehner's servers were crashed then. I got through to Senator Portman and COngressman Chabot. I expect to hear from both of them in the next couple days

    Boehner, probably not. He doesn't know me nor was I one of his big contributors though other members of my family were.



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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9Cease with the personal attack and flaming. There may be action for existing posts and there definitely will going forward if this continues.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Threatening to not pay old people scares liberals to no end.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Boehner's servers were crashed then. I got through to Senator Portman and COngressman Chabot. I expect to hear from both of them in the next couple days

    Boehner, probably not. He doesn't know me nor was I one of his big contributors though other members of my family were.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    I watched both speeches and what I saw was a pair of pandering douchebags.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    You're right bush sucked.
    Non sequitur.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    If the Republicans don't want Obama to have even more power, then they better deal with this debt ceiling issue and make it fast.

    (Debt Ceiling Intransigence: Unintended Consequences...) The article is by Paul Craig Roberts.

    If Republicans become obsessed with their agenda and refuse a reasonable deal, and the Democrats do not cave, the executive branch will be faced with an inability to continue its operations. This could mean, for example, that the troops in the various wars could not be supplied or paid, that air traffic controllers could not be paid, that the US government could not roll over the debt that comes due or issue the new debt that pays for 43% of federal budget expenditures. Unlike during the Newt Gingrich government shutdown in the 1990s, today “nonessential government” does not total 43% of federal expenditures unless we include the wars, which, of course, the Republicans don’t.

    The US dollar could plummet in exchange value and lose its role as world reserve currency. The US would no longer be able to pay its oil bill in its own currency, and as its balance of payments is heavily in the red, the US has no foreign currencies with which to pay its oil import bill. Or its manufactured goods import bill, or any other bill.

    We are talking about a crisis beyond anything the world has ever seen. Does anyone think that President Obama is going to just sit there while the power of the US collapses? He doesn’t have to do so. There are presidential directives and executive orders in place, put there by George W. Bush himself, that President Obama can invoke to declare a national emergency, suspend the debt ceiling limit, and continue to issue Treasury debt. This is exactly what would happen.

    The consequences would be that the power of the purse would transfer from Congress to the President. It would be the end of the power of Congress. Congress, Republicans and Democrats alike, have already given away to the President Congress’ Constitutional right to decide whether the country goes to war. Now Congress would lose its power over debt, taxes, and the budget itself.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    If the Republicans don't want Obama to have even more power, then they better deal with this debt ceiling issue and make it fast.

    (Debt Ceiling Intransigence: Unintended Consequences...) The article is by Paul Craig Roberts.

    (emphasis added)
    I doubt he wants to test the water on that one. It would probably end any chance he has for a second term.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I doubt he wants to test the water on that one. It would probably end any chance he has for a second term.
    I think that chance has long passed.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You don't sound like someone who is having fun. You sound like someone who feels he's entitled!
    I haven't seen either speech but this post is a little ironic given how many on the left (not saying you, I don't know), resent failing to raise taxes on people as if the money they wouldn't have to pay somehow just belongs to...uh...society, I guess.
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