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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I find it hypocritical for someone to use a source they themselves do not believe
    I wasn't arguing my beliefs, or even expressing them. It was an article in regard to the failure of the French health system and an interesting response to it..Such opinions are not uncommon in France, or Western Europe..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The relevance is that, even with French health care being administered by the government, it is still not enough for those who feel the government should be responsible for everything and that "capitalism", and thus personal freedom, must be eliminated..

    But as we can see in this case, and millions of others, governments cannot protect us from everything, they can only promise to.

    And yet still they have a better outcome than we do.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And yet still they have a better outcome than we do.
    I'm not sure of that but we can be certain that the US often has the worst of all worlds, given their mix of HMO's Medicare, Medicaid and a situation where free enterprise no longer really exists. Had they stuck with free enterprise they'd have been a lot better off, as would have Canada, but once the government gets in then it just doesn't leave, or improve...The States is pretty much screwed now and soon they'll be a major loss as a place to go for first rate medical care.

    Happily though, countries like Costa Rica are introducing 'Medical Tourism" where victims of national health care programs can go to get prompt and efficient treatment

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The relevance is that, even with French health care being administered by the government, it is still not enough for those who feel the government should be responsible for everything and that "capitalism", and thus personal freedom, must be eliminated..

    But as we can see in this case, and millions of others, governments cannot protect us from everything, they can only promise to.
    So you proved that some people can't be satisfied. That only proves that the song was correct; it says nothing about the quality of socialized medicine
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you proved that some people can't be satisfied. That only proves that the song was correct; it says nothing about the quality of socialized medicine
    I live in Canada so I know something of socialized medicine. I also spend half my time in Costa Rica, which has both private and socialized medicine. I've also experienced the systems first hand in Australia, New Zealand, Iceland and the UK.

    Where has your personal experience been?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Why did Texas Gov. Perry expect money from the Federal Government to fight fires?
    Same reason the people of New Orleans expected govt. money to handle Katrina, natural disasters, both of them. Remember that the next forest fire in Oregon

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I live in Canada so I know something of socialized medicine. I also spend half my time in Costa Rica, which has both private and socialized medicine. I've also experienced the systems first hand in Australia, New Zealand, Iceland and the UK.

    Where has your personal experience been?
    Being canadian doesn't make you an expert on all things canadian, just as sitting in my garage does not make me an auto mechanic
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Being canadian doesn't make you an expert on all things canadian, just as sitting in my garage does not make me an auto mechanic
    Great stuff.

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