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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    I understand Conservative, I do. What I am trying to get you guys to see, is there is valid arguments from both sides. I also want to get you to see, that if one side "seems to have the responsibility of their actions" then why did they allow the problem to get to where it is today? If I misquoted your statement, sorry.

    Just as there is a man and a woman to raise a kid, and provide two outlooks where you can either take or reject certain points from each side, this is the beauty of the two party system. If you BLINDLY reject every concept of the other side, you are practicing a cognitive distortion. Which means, your conclusions will be distorted from reality.

    Instead of pointing fingers and blaming, we need to respect other people on what they have to say, and as civilized people, debate until a reasonable compromise is established that will be in the best interest of this country.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That money is better spent at home, and in some cases, by the Fed govt
    Great, do you send your entire paycheck to the govt. so they can decide how to spend it?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, how many other countries have you visited? We live in the greatest country on the face of the earth or at least used to but not with liberals in control.
    I have travelled all over the world. Many nations have a better health care system and a higher standard of living.

    But of the top ten developed nations in the world, we have the highest infant mortality


    We're #1!
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    We're #1!
    We're #1!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, paid any attention to the economic conditions in those countries? All are trying to dismantle those single payer systems, wonder why? The grass is always greener on the other side until you get there.
    Yes, I have paid attention. Most of those countries are doing quite nicely -- particularly in comparison to our current situation. Nor are any of them contemplating doing away with national health care. That doesn't mean that they are immune to rising health care costs. That is fairly universal. But they still get much more for their money than we do, and with considerably less bargaining power and economy of scale.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, it was for shovel ready jobs that didn't exist, not to bail out state budgets. It never would have passed with that as the stated goal.
    Wrong, it was sold with a variety of arguments
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I know. But take france for example. Not a single payer. The french aer insured through a number of highly regulated, private insurance companies.

    Nationalized health care does not necesarily mean "single payer". There's many ways to skin a cat.
    Cradle to grave coverage in France is a joke and bankrupting the country

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great, do you send your entire paycheck to the govt. so they can decide how to spend it?
    I don't get a paycheck.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong, it was sold with a variety of arguments
    Obama record, 15.1 million officially unemployed TODAY 2 1/2 years later, 16.2% total unemployment or underemployment over 24 million TODAY, 4 trillion added to the debt as of the end of fiscal year 2011, and a rising misery index(7.83 to 12.67).

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Which is a lie, but you bought it so prove it. States are responsible for solving their own problems, why do you believe someone from another state should fund your police?

    Both sides did create the problem, but only one side seems to understand personal responsibility and states rights.
    Why did Texas Gov. Perry expect money from the Federal Government to fight fires?


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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Cradle to grave coverage in France is a joke and bankrupting the country
    Cradle to grave coverage in france works and has increased Frances' competitiveness
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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