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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    A typical non-response. And yes, it makes it OK.
    So I want something here in TX, send me a check please

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    LOL, paid any attention to the economic conditions in those countries? All are trying to dismantle those single payer systems, wonder why? The grass is always greener on the other side until you get there.
    Most of those nations enjoy a higher standard of living than we do. And they work less for it. And none of them are dismantling their socialized health care systems. Socialized programs work, so people want to keep them
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not all of those are single payer. In fact, I believe most are not. They are UHC's.
    Single payer is not synonymous with government-run hospitals. Most countries with nationalized health care still have private doctors and hospitals, but the government is paying the bills (often with a nominal co-pay).

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sookster View Post
    Just because something "should" happen, doesn't mean it does. The ideology that President Obama has is Big Government. He believes that the Federal Government is capable for providing all the needs for all its citizens. I think I understand the counter arguments to this, which is why I pointed out in my original post, that I would argue it is not in the Federal Government's place to do what he did. It is the States' responsibility to ensure the solventy of police forces and fire houses.
    The Federal govt. gets is money from the individual taxpayer. That money is better spent at home.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    That wasn't how the stimulus was sold and you know it, nor was it the Federal Taxpayer responsibility to bail out other state unions and take over their responsibilities
    Sure it was. That's exactly how it was sold
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So I want something here in TX, send me a check please
    Your check is on its' way. Please stand by
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Most of those nations enjoy a higher standard of living than we do. And they work less for it. And none of them are dismantling their socialized health care systems. Socialized programs work, so people want to keep them
    LOL, how many other countries have you visited? We live in the greatest country on the face of the earth or at least used to but not with liberals in control.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Sure it was. That's exactly how it was sold
    No, it was for shovel ready jobs that didn't exist, not to bail out state budgets. It never would have passed with that as the stated goal.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Single payer is not synonymous with government-run hospitals. Most countries with nationalized health care still have private doctors and hospitals, but the government is paying the bills (often with a nominal co-pay).
    I know. But take france for example. Not a single payer. The french aer insured through a number of highly regulated, private insurance companies.

    Nationalized health care does not necesarily mean "single payer". There's many ways to skin a cat.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The Federal govt. gets is money from the individual taxpayer. That money is better spent at home.
    That money is better spent at home, and in some cases, by the Fed govt
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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