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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't believe a person making 50k doesn't pay taxes. the top 20% own all the wealth, why shouldn't they pay all the taxes?
    Exactly!! The money needs to be taxed, and it's in their bag. Therefore.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by muskrat1973 View Post
    Aren't we still in Iraq and Aghanistan and that was not included in the graph for obama.
    Well it was a crappy graph as it purported to include "new" spending, which is pretty much irrelevant by itself. Bush did enact the tax cuts but Obama extended them. To the NYTimes it seems it is only bad for Bush because he did it first.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You miss the point, I really don't care how much someone else pays in taxes or who doesn't pay any taxes. I am more concerned over a 3.7 trillion dollar budget promoting out of control spending. If you are concerned about income taxes then promote the elimination of the 24 million unemployed or under employed Americans and then collect something from the millions who don't pay any FIT now. Think the rich can fund the liberal spending appetite? They don't have that kind of money.
    If you don't care, why did you mention it?

    The point is that the deficit is the result of unusually high spending and unusually low taxation. The solution is to address both causes. It's not rocket science.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Well it was a crappy graph as it purported to include "new" spending, which is pretty much irrelevant by itself. Bush did enact the tax cuts but Obama extended them. To the NYTimes it seems it is only bad for Bush because he did it first.
    Obama only extended the top tax cuts because the Republicans were fully prepared to shut down the government if he didn't. Just like they're prepared to wreck the economy if they don't get 100% of what they want in the debt limit negotiations.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Catch me if you can.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Posted over and over again but you ignore data and links.
    Where did you post it? I must have missed it
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by muskrat1973 View Post
    Aren't we still in Iraq and Aghanistan and that was not included in the graph for obama.
    The spending for Obama includes the spending for Libya; it just wasn't broken out as a seperate item
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If a corporation pays taxes it should have complete representation as well

    meaning it should be able to vote in the jurisdictions where its located

    just saying..........
    No, sir! If such is every allowed, that one vote should be casted only in the state where said corporation is headquartered. But now, who would cast that vote?

    The majority stockholder?

    The company president?

    The CEO?

    It's President of the Board (of Directors)?

    Who exactly should be responsible to cast that vote?

    See how convoluted such a proposal would be?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, and part of Obama's big plan for solving the debt crisis is saving 1 trillion dollars in Iraq from a war that we are exiting and not going t spend anyway. Creative liberal accounting.
    It's still a decrease in spending compared to bush* and the republicans
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what? the irs tells you that 50k of agi is not taxed? lol!
    Adjusted gross income of 50,000 has led to people not paying any FIT and you don't have a problem with that but still want to raise the taxes more on those that do pay most of the taxes without any thought to the consequences. Still waiting for a response as to why you support people earning 50,000 or less paying nothing in FIT, NOTHING, but would rather try to get 70 billion a year from the rich who already pay most of the taxes. That is liberal logic and shows that liberals don't think.

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