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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, and then put on budget to be wasted. Why is SS on budget?
    Nevertheless, SS does not contribute to deficits or the national debt. SS decrease deficits and the national debt
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You have yet to show that I don't understand these charts, but you have mistated what at least one chart was saying.

    And the 4T in debt is the result of

    1) servicing the debt produced by reagan ghwb and bush*
    2)paying for Medicare D
    3) reduced GDP thanks to rightwing economic policies of bush*
    4) bloated pork ridden spending on Farm, Energy and Transportation bills
    5) TARP

    all passed under bush*. Obama has to pay for the out of control spending under bush and the republicans
    I have to admit you do a good job playing this game and providing half truths. You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about because you have never once looked at the budget of the U.S. yet that doesn't stop you from making a fool of yourself. Reagan debt 1.7 trillion and Bush's debt hardly added up to 4 trillion in debt service. This really is foolish arguing with you as you won't listen, nor will you get the facts.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I love how logically laying out one's case is considered whining by people who don't like it.
    When has he done this without whining and finger pointing?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Nevertheless, SS does not contribute to deficits or the national debt. SS decrease deficits and the national debt
    Yes, SS does contribute to the debt as it is in intergovt. holdings and that is part of the debt

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Never said they pay no taxes, they pay zero in FIT, there is a difference. Just like you ignore that the rich pay a lot more than FIT.
    No, you never said it

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    Right, this is ridiculous. you honestly believe that people making 50,000 or less cannot pay anything for the services they receive from the taxpayers?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I have to admit you do a good job playing this game and providing half truths. You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about because you have never once looked at the budget of the U.S. yet that doesn't stop you from making a fool of yourself. Reagan debt 1.7 trillion and Bush's debt hardly added up to 4 trillion in debt service. This really is foolish arguing with you as you won't listen, nor will you get the facts.
    And again you have no response to facts. All you've got is your one fact about FIT, so you ignore everything else and resort to childish attacks.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    1) it's a good campaign speech.

    2) he's not entirely wrong.

    3) how can YOU say to granny, you know what, you should pay for all your medical care yourself to give the rich a few % less in tax cuts they survived quite comfortably before.

    4) there's only one loser in all this, the American people. Continue your partisan bickering, continue believing compromise is an evil thing, you deserve what's going to happen to you if you continue this game.

    5) when history looks back, the only ones to blame will be yourselves.
    Maybe if the granny were not led into a false sense of security of relying on the goverment for everything she would not be in a place where she would have to still money from someone who earned it. Funny how when you get robbed on the street it is theft but when the goverment does it they call it your "fair Share."

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, SS does contribute to the debt as it is in intergovt. holdings and that is part of the debt
    Intergovt debt is money one pocket owes to the other pocket. SS has a surplus and you know that.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you never said it
    I was talking FIT, try to keep up

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Intergovt debt is money one pocket owes to the other pocket. SS has a surplus and you know that.
    LBJ put that surplus on budget and it has been spent, that is why we have trillions in unfunded liabilities.

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