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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The rich collect SS just like everyone else.
    Because they pay into it. It's their money. They should be allowed to get it back once they reach retirement age.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because they pay into it. It's their money. They should be allowed to get it back once they reach retirement age.
    i have no problem with that...let's just take away the cap on income.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i have no problem with that...let's just take away the cap on income.
    What's that going to solve?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    And that's my mistake, I must have misunderstood something I read.

    But at least I can admit my foibles. You're so wrapped up in making them over and over again that you can't even accept that you're wrong about 95% of the time.
    Thank you, and when you can prive that I've been mistaken, I will do the same. However, just claiming that I'm wrong is not sufficient
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Any side largely talking about "revenue increases" and pretty much not touching entitlements is delusional and ignorant. Any side largely talking about cuts to discretionary spending and government programs is largely delusional and ignorant.

    75% of our spending roughly is spent on entitlements and defense. With entitlements making up the large majority of that. If we cut every bit of defense spending we'd still need to raise I believe 32% or so more revenue to balance the budget. Without SIGNIFICANT reform to entitlements and slightly less done to defense then all the politicians are doing is pissing on our leg and telling us it's raining.
    Defense cost more than the entitlement programs. Our entitlement programs are running a surplus. SS contributes billions towards reducing the deficit and the program is fully funded for years to come.

    Defense is another matter. We need to stop being the worlds policemen. We don't need bases in nations with little likelihood of invasion. I dont think Germany needs protection from invasion from the now non-existent USSR
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Food for thought.

    Crap, mis-calculated. let me try that again and repost.
    Last edited by tessaesque; 07-26-11 at 02:04 PM.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Defense cost more than the entitlement programs. Our entitlement programs are running a surplus. SS contributes billions towards reducing the deficit and the program is fully funded for years to come.

    Defense is another matter. We need to stop being the worlds policemen. We don't need bases in nations with little likelihood of invasion. I dont think Germany needs protection from invasion from the now non-existent USSR
    There's no way that the defence budget is the only reason we're running a deficit.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Defense cost more than the entitlement programs. Our entitlement programs are running a surplus. SS contributes billions towards reducing the deficit and the program is fully funded for years to come.

    Defense is another matter. We need to stop being the worlds policemen. We don't need bases in nations with little likelihood of invasion. I dont think Germany needs protection from invasion from the now non-existent USSR
    Where do you get your misinformation? Defense is 700 billion and SS/Medicare is almost double that

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You miss the point, I really don't care how much someone else pays in taxes or who doesn't pay any taxes. I am more concerned over a 3.7 trillion dollar budget promoting out of control spending. If you are concerned about income taxes then promote the elimination of the 24 million unemployed or under employed Americans and then collect something from the millions who don't pay any FIT now. Think the rich can fund the liberal spending appetite? They don't have that kind of money.
    If you don't care, then why did you mention it several times in your posts?

    And funny how the right only worries about spending when there's a democrat in the white house. They had no concern about spending when the republicans held the white house, the senate and the house and spent like drunken sailors on leave (except that those sailors are spending their own money).

    And funny how, in spite of your lack of concern for those who pay no FIT, you are once again using them in support of the rightwings desire to redistribute wealth. And once again, you focus on FIT to the exclusion of all else.

    The rich can afford the lefts spending better than they can afford the republicans spending sprees, which account for the large majority of this nations debt

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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you don't care, then why did you mention it several times in your posts?

    And funny how the right only worries about spending when there's a democrat in the white house. They had no concern about spending when the republicans held the white house, the senate and the house and spent like drunken sailors on leave (except that those sailors are spending their own money).

    And funny how, in spite of your lack of concern for those who pay no FIT, you are once again using them in support of the rightwings desire to redistribute wealth. And once again, you focus on FIT to the exclusion of all else.

    The rich can afford the lefts spending better than they can afford the republicans spending sprees, which account for the large majority of this nations debt

    Look it! The graph stops before Obama became prez.

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