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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The rich should pay their fair share on all their income. The middle class has to pay more than their fair share.

    And if the rich elites paid their fair share, we would not have to borrow so much money. The welfare the rich recieve is being funded by borrowing, and they want the middle class to pay their debts.

    1. You didn't answer my questions at all.
    2. That chart has nothing to do with your fake point.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    It's funny how, when you talk about raising corporate tax rates, conservatives maintain that any hike would just be passed through to consumers. But when you talk about payroll taxes or health insurance, conservatives want to argue that it comes right out of the CEO's pocket.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    This is how the payroll tax works. It isn't just the "middle class" paying it; the employer (AKA the "rich" also pays part of it.
    You said the payroll tax is an income tax on the employee. Why won't you admit that you were wrong when even your own source does not describe it as an income tax?

    And payroll taxes do not apply to income above a certain level, which is just one more way the wealthy get away with avoiding to pay their fair share.

    1) Payroll taxes are not income taxes
    2) Everyone with an income pays taxes

    When will the people making false claims to the opposite of this admit to their mistatements of fact?
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    1. You didn't answer my questions at all.
    2. That chart has nothing to do with your fake point.
    I am not here to obey your insistent requests for info that will be ignored. I will post however I choose.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I want, I want, I want. What are you willing to pay and why aren't you doing it now? This country wasn't built on your ideology and the problem is you seem to have made it but now don't want others to do the same thing. Classic jealousy

    it actually was......we've functioned very well on a progressive tax.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's funny how, when you talk about raising corporate tax rates, conservatives maintain that any hike would just be passed through to consumers. But when you talk about payroll taxes or health insurance, conservatives want to argue that it comes right out of the CEO's pocket.
    1. I've never made the argument that tax hikes are passed on to the consumer.
    2. I didn't say that all payroll taxes or all health insurance premiums are paid by the corporations..and I definitely didn't target the CEO's pocket...
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You said the payroll tax is an income tax on the employee. Why won't you admit that you were wrong when even your own source does not describe it as an income tax?

    And payroll taxes do not apply to income above a certain level, which is just one more way the wealthy get away with avoiding to pay their fair share.

    1) Payroll taxes are not income taxes
    2) Everyone with an income pays taxes

    When will the people making false claims to the opposite of this admit to their mistatements of fact?
    Why should somebody who will never use SS or FICA have to pay for it?
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You said the payroll tax is an income tax on the employee. Why won't you admit that you were wrong when even your own source does not describe it as an income tax?

    And payroll taxes do not apply to income above a certain level, which is just one more way the wealthy get away with avoiding to pay their fair share.

    1) Payroll taxes are not income taxes
    2) Everyone with an income pays taxes

    When will the people making false claims to the opposite of this admit to their mistatements of fact?
    You first.....
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it actually was......we've functioned very well on a progressive tax.
    Absolutely. This country started out with a regressive tax structure which left it with a third-rate economy. Until we instituted a progressive tax system, we were an economic backwater. Afterwards, we became the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the history of the world.

    The rightwingers want to undo all this and return us to our third world status so they can force workers to toil for slave wages
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    1. I've never made the argument that tax hikes are passed on to the consumer.
    2. I didn't say that all payroll taxes or all health insurance premiums are paid by the corporations..and I definitely didn't target the CEO's pocket...
    Right, what you said was, "the employer (AKA the "rich" also pays part of it."

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