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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    You have made a lot of claims but no proof that the rich are ripping anyone off or hurting the poor. that is what you do as part of your act. How did any rich person hurt you or your family by what they earned? Life is about making choices. You don't like what some rich person does, don't buy from them
    I have posted charts which show the results of the wealthys decade long plan to soak the middle class. The rightwingers refuse to respond or even consider the reality portrayed by those facts.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    And I'm still waiting for you to provide any factual support for the rich who pay no income tax at all instead of engaging in the politics of personal destruction

    A fair share is when everyone pay taxes in proportion to their disposable income (including all the govt welfare they receive)
    Unlike you I don't care what the rich or anyone else pays in FIT including you. I gave you the percentage of FIT that each class makes. You use buzz words and vague terms to promote your act. Define fair share as a percentage of income? Tell me that people making 50,000 or less cannot pay something in FIT? What is their fair share?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have posted charts which show the results of the wealthys decade long plan to soak the middle class. The rightwingers refuse to respond or even consider the reality portrayed by those facts.
    Your charts show nothing of value because you don't know how much the rich give to the poor and charities

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    Unlike you I don't care what the rich or anyone else pays in FIT including you. I gave you the percentage of FIT that each class makes. You use buzz words and vague terms to promote your act. Define fair share as a percentage of income? Tell me that people making 50,000 or less cannot pay something in FIT? What is their fair share?
    And I gave you the results of our tax system and system of subsidies for the rich, which clearly show how the rich have looted the middle class. It's time to make the rich take some personal responsibility and pay their fair share
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

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    Your charts show nothing of value because you don't know how much the rich give to the poor and charities
    I know that the rich don't pay their fair share of charity. Their sense of compassion is so lacking that even the poor give a larger portion of their income to charity

    Who are the most generous givers?

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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And I gave you the results of our tax system and system of subsidies for the rich, which clearly show how the rich have looted the middle class. It's time to make the rich take some personal responsibility and pay their fair share
    Not once have you talked about Govt. spending nor have you ever addressed the 47% of INCOME earners paying zero in FIT. Why is that? You just keep posting and moving the goalposts never addressing any issue. This is a joke and it has worn thin with me. Keep playing your game but I cannot keep up with your one line simple responses that never address the issues and simply promotes jealousy and capitalizes on someone else's ignorance. Using the term fair share doesn't make your case because you never define it.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I know that the rich don't pay their fair share of charity. Their sense of compassion is so lacking that even the poor give a larger portion of their income to charity

    Who are the most generous givers?

    Oh, good Lord, another percentage change argument. Since those evil rich people are already paying 38% of the FIT they already start at a disadvantage of spendable income over people who pay zero. Nice try but irrelevant.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I know that the rich don't pay their fair share of charity. Their sense of compassion is so lacking that even the poor give a larger portion of their income to charity

    Who are the most generous givers?

    And not to mention that the less one has, the more the act of them giving from it actually constitutes a sacrifice.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Not once have you talked about Govt. spending nor have you ever addressed the 47% of INCOME earners paying zero in FIT. Why is that? You just keep posting and moving the goalposts never addressing any issue. This is a joke and it has worn thin with me. Keep playing your game but I cannot keep up with your one line simple responses that never address the issues and simply promotes jealousy and capitalizes on someone else's ignorance. Using the term fair share doesn't make your case because you never define it.
    Actually, I have spoken of how govt spending flows to the rich through bailouts, subsidies, price supports, etc. I will express my opinion without regard for the opinions of the rich and their rightwing supporters who want me to focus on taxes paid by the poor in order to avoid discussing how the rich are soaking the middle class. When the rightwingers start discussing how the rich have destroyed our economy and been rewarded for it, maybe then we can have a "balanced" discussion.

    And there aren't enough words in the dictionary to explain what "fair" means to the rightwing. The concept is beyond their comprehension.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Oh, good Lord, another percentage change argument. Since those evil rich people are already paying 38% of the FIT they already start at a disadvantage of spendable income over people who pay zero. Nice try but irrelevant.
    lmao....yes, the poor disadvantaged rich. truly a sad, sad, tale.

    how ridiculous can you be? what "spendable income" is left for poor people after they pay rent and buy food, gas and necessities? MORE than rich people? uh-huh.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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