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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    The GOP needs to stop. Raise the god damn taxes on the rich! For all the sacrificed their lives for this Nation. These wealthy people can sacrifice a few dollars. Not forever. But for now until we get the last 2 decades of crazy-ass spending under control! Not to mention the corporate welfare! For the love of GOD! Plus the Dems need to cut welfare on the lazy and destroy all State Unions!
    how about everyone else make sacrifices too

    what Obama is saying is that all the spending proposed to be cut benefits EVERYONE but the rich so in order to spread the misery those who pay for the programs have to pay MORE and everyone else who benefits from those programs will have a little less benefits. Obama thus proves that the massive spending doesn't benefit the rich-rather cutting spending does while everyone else will contribute by getting less from the government.

    its BS

    NO ONE SHOULD PAY MORE TAXES (which only encourages the libs to spend more to buy votes) until the government proves it can be less reckless in its spending



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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The corporation pays waaaaay more taxes than the worker. The corporation pay unemploymet, workman's comp, social security and medicare.

    Stop with the myths, please.
    Corporations aren't paying more taxes. More than half of the Fortune 500 (ie the most profitable corps in the world) paid no taxes

    It's part of their effort to redistribute wealth from the middle class to the wealthy in order to coerce the middle class into accepting third world wages. They should be called "cheap labor con artists", not corporations
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how about everyone else make sacrifices too

    what Obama is saying is that all the spending proposed to be cut benefits EVERYONE but the rich so in order to spread the misery those who pay for the programs have to pay MORE and everyone else who benefits from those programs will have a little less benefits. Obama thus proves that the massive spending doesn't benefit the rich-rather cutting spending does while everyone else will contribute by getting less from the government.

    its BS

    NO ONE SHOULD PAY MORE TAXES (which only encourages the libs to spend more to buy votes) until the government proves it can be less reckless in its spending
    It is always easier raising taxes on someone else just like it is easier forcing people to pay taxes vs. voluntarily sending in more money from current liberal paychecks than the tax code requires. Never in my life have I seen such passion on raising taxes on others. If liberals are so concerned about govt. revenue where is the voluntary sending in of more of their cash from their income? Just goes to show the true colors of liberalism true hypocrites who simply want to spread their misery equally to everyone else.

    Again, posted many times but ignored every time. Obama is talking about 700 billion in tax revenue from the rich. That is 70 billion a year if it happens thus a drop in the bucket in our 3.7 trillion dollar debt.

    The top 1% of wage earners make 20% of all income and pay 38% of all FIT taxes.
    The top 5% of wage earners make 34.7% of all income and pay 58.7% of all FIT taxes.
    The top 10% of wage earners make 45.8% of all income and pay 69.9% of all FIT taxes.

    The bottom 50% make 12.8% of all income and pay 2.7% of all FIT taxes.

    Currently approximately 47% of all Americans pay nothing and actually get money back making their tax rate negative.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Corporations aren't paying more taxes. More than half of the Fortune 500 (ie the most profitable corps in the world) paid no taxes

    It's part of their effort to redistribute wealth from the middle class to the wealthy in order to coerce the middle class into accepting third world wages. They should be called "cheap labor con artists", not corporations
    So what, do their employees pay taxes? Do they pay State and local taxes? do they contribute to charities? You always care about what someone else is paying in taxes. Do your fair share and send in more of your money to the govt.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how about everyone else make sacrifices too
    I had to laugh this morning when I read this. The GOP and the plan that you support requires the most needy and the elderly to carry almost all of the burden. There is nothing in the GOP plan that requires the most wealthy to make ANY sacrifice.

    From your response here....it would sound like you support what Obama wants to do....which is requiring EVERYONE to make sacrifices....which includes the wealthiest among us as well.
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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how about everyone else make sacrifices too

    what Obama is saying is that all the spending proposed to be cut benefits EVERYONE but the rich so in order to spread the misery those who pay for the programs have to pay MORE and everyone else who benefits from those programs will have a little less benefits. Obama thus proves that the massive spending doesn't benefit the rich-rather cutting spending does while everyone else will contribute by getting less from the government.

    its BS

    NO ONE SHOULD PAY MORE TAXES (which only encourages the libs to spend more to buy votes) until the government proves it can be less reckless in its spending
    The middle class has been making all the sacrifices while the rich just suck up more money from the middle class.

    What Obama said was that its' time for the rich pay their fair share instead of having the private jets paid for with tax dollars from the middle class. With trillion dollar bailouts, the wealthy do not need any more govt welfare. It's time to stop the richs' culture of dependency. He said that since the wealthy are the biggest user of govt welfare, it's time they started paying their fair share. Only the right wingers think the wealthy didn't benefit from massive bailouts (which are the only way the wealthy welfare recipients can stay in business).

    THE RICH SHOULD PAY MORE so they won't be able to afford to keep buying our political representatives and they should keep on paying until they prove they can make money without regular bailouts and govt subsidies. The richs' hatred of the american worker will make it hard to get these taxes past the richs' bought off politicians, but it has to be done to stop the reckless rich
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I had to laugh this morning when I read this. The GOP and the plan that you support requires the most needy and the elderly to carry almost all of the burden. There is nothing in the GOP plan that requires the most wealthy to make ANY sacrifice.

    From your response here....it would sound like you support what Obama wants to do....which is requiring EVERYONE to make sacrifices....which includes the wealthiest among us as well.
    Are you ever going to address the following:

    The top 1% of wage earners make 20% of all income and pay 38% of all taxes.
    The top 5% of wage earners make 34.7% of all income and pay 58.7% of all taxes.
    The top 10% of wage earners make 45.8% of all income and pay 69.9% of all taxes.

    The bottom 50% make 12.8% of all income and pay 2.7% of all taxes.

    Currently approximately 47% of all Americans pay nothing and actually get money back making their tax rate negative.

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The middle class has been making all the sacrifices while the rich just suck up more money from the middle class.

    What Obama said was that its' time for the rich pay their fair share instead of having the private jets paid for with tax dollars from the middle class. With trillion dollar bailouts, the wealthy do not need any more govt welfare. It's time to stop the richs' culture of dependency. He said that since the wealthy are the biggest user of govt welfare, it's time they started paying their fair share. Only the right wingers think the wealthy didn't benefit from massive bailouts (which are the only way the wealthy welfare recipients can stay in business).

    THE RICH SHOULD PAY MORE so they won't be able to afford to keep buying our political representatives and they should keep on paying until they prove they can make money without regular bailouts and govt subsidies. The richs' hatred of the american worker will make it hard to get these taxes past the richs' bought off politicians, but it has to be done to stop the reckless rich
    Why do you continue to buy the lies of this Administration?

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is always easier raising taxes on someone else just like it is easier forcing people to pay taxes vs. voluntarily sending in more money from current liberal paychecks than the tax code requires.
    That's why the rich has been paying the politician to raise taxes on the middle class vs having the rich pay their fair share. The self-entitled rich think they earned their massive bailouts because destroying the economy was hard work.

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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: BREAKING: President Obama Addresses the Nation Tonight at 9

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So what, do their employees pay taxes? Do they pay State and local taxes? do they contribute to charities? You always care about what someone else is paying in taxes. Do your fair share and send in more of your money to the govt.
    The wealthy, and their rightwing apologists are fine with the middle class shouldering the entire burden. The rightwingers only want the middle class to pay taxes because the rightwing supports a program of massive redistribution of wealth.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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