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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If you think Lady Gaga is hyped and not talented, you haven't really seen/heard Lady Gaga.
    I saw some tour thing she had on HBO. That was enough. I do admit to being a bit of a musical snob having been a music major in college before. I tend to analyze music from a different perspective.

    One of my classmates had an amazing natural inclination for singing jazz tunes. Great voice, solid performer. But she was built like an NFL lineman and refused to shave her chin whiskers/mustache. The music industry isn't going to pay for these kinds of people, and popular music is the biggest offenders of convincing people that their artists are "talented".
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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

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    A very rare occasion where you and I agree haymarket. THANK YOU!
    thats cool. Look, I am 62 years of age and grew up in the Sixties with all the crap that was there. I never did any drugs of any kind, did not even take a drink until I was 30 or so, and have about one of the most conservative lifestyles around. I have been married to the same woman for 40 years and my idea of a big night is to watch the Tigers on TV or pop in Lord of the Rings on the tube.

    The idea that somebody could be young, gifted and talented and actually get the breaks to make it big time and then flush it down the toilet of life like so much crap is simply pathetic. its not heroic, or tragic, or even sad... its just pathetic and huge waste. I guess I am really cynical having seen this happened scores of times in the last decades.

    its good we agree on something Ockham.
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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I saw some tour thing she had on HBO. That was enough. I do admit to being a bit of a musical snob having been a music major in college before. I tend to analyze music from a different perspective.

    One of my classmates had an amazing natural inclination for singing jazz tunes. Great voice, solid performer. But she was built like an NFL lineman and refused to shave her chin whiskers/mustache. The music industry isn't going to pay for these kinds of people, and popular music is the biggest offenders of convincing people that their artists are "talented".
    One music major can't appreciate another? Gaga studied music at NYU.

    I guess it comes down to different tastes, but being a bit of a music snob myself I think by pretty much any objective evaluation, Gaga is talented.
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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I saw some tour thing she had on HBO. That was enough. I do admit to being a bit of a musical snob having been a music major in college before. I tend to analyze music from a different perspective.

    One of my classmates had an amazing natural inclination for singing jazz tunes. Great voice, solid performer. But she was built like an NFL lineman and refused to shave her chin whiskers/mustache. The music industry isn't going to pay for these kinds of people, and popular music is the biggest offenders of convincing people that their artists are "talented".
    Perhaps talent should be in the eyes of the beholder and on the technical side should be judged by people with credentials such as yours. The bottom line is likability and the finished product, this is how talent will be judged and if appeals to the ear then IMO it's talent.

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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I saw some tour thing she had on HBO. That was enough. I do admit to being a bit of a musical snob having been a music major in college before. I tend to analyze music from a different perspective.

    One of my classmates had an amazing natural inclination for singing jazz tunes. Great voice, solid performer. But she was built like an NFL lineman and refused to shave her chin whiskers/mustache. The music industry isn't going to pay for these kinds of people, and popular music is the biggest offenders of convincing people that their artists are "talented".
    Now that makes sense - but have you seen Amy Winehouse? I can't see anybody ever calling her pretty. Adele is a big girl, but god the people love her. Lady Gaga didn't have to go for the gimmics. But she's another Madonna (who I also thought was a joke while she was popular but did her music stand the test of time or what?). I've hard Gaga sing exactly once. It took me from "wtf, who cares" to "Oh, okay. NOW I understand." I haven't heard another song of hers, I didn't seek her out like I did Adele, but I can see why she has a huge following.

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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Now that makes sense - but have you seen Amy Winehouse? I can't see anybody ever calling her pretty. Adele is a big girl, but god the people love her. Lady Gaga didn't have to go for the gimmics. But she's another Madonna (who I also thought was a joke while she was popular but did her music stand the test of time or what?). I've hard Gaga sing exactly once. It took me from "wtf, who cares" to "Oh, okay. NOW I understand." I haven't heard another song of hers, I didn't seek her out like I did Adele, but I can see why she has a huge following.
    No Winehouse wasn't pretty. But her gimmick was her tragic lifestyle. Gimmicks abound in pop music. Few ever admit it. I think KISS is the only band/artist I know that freely admits to being absolute whores.
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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Now that makes sense - but have you seen Amy Winehouse? I can't see anybody ever calling her pretty.
    At one time she most certainly was. Her lifestyle quickly stole that from her.


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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    At one time she most certainly was. Her lifestyle quickly stole that from her.

    Almost looks like a before and after meth pictures.Actually I think it is.

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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Now that makes sense - but have you seen Amy Winehouse? I can't see anybody ever calling her pretty. Adele is a big girl, but god the people love her. Lady Gaga didn't have to go for the gimmics. But she's another Madonna (who I also thought was a joke while she was popular but did her music stand the test of time or what?). I've hard Gaga sing exactly once. It took me from "wtf, who cares" to "Oh, okay. NOW I understand." I haven't heard another song of hers, I didn't seek her out like I did Adele, but I can see why she has a huge following.
    My mom said she likes some of Lady Gaga's music which is kind of surprising. I think a lot of people have a Lady Gaga song they like. She's hard to ignore and her music is catchy. She is a lot better than Nicki Minja and she tries really hard to be different.

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    Re: Amy Winehouse found dead in London home Sky News Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    No Winehouse wasn't pretty. But her gimmick was her tragic lifestyle. Gimmicks abound in pop music. Few ever admit it. I think KISS is the only band/artist I know that freely admits to being absolute whores.
    I never really liked KISS. I thought Marilyn Manson was all gimmicks too... Oh, and Snipknot. Those are middle aged guys hiding behind masks, but they had the formula down pat and made a lot of money doing it.

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