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Anders Behring Breivik Identified As Suspect In Norway Shooting

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This is the most recent info I have viewed. He self-identified as Christian, conservative, and nationalist. He is connected to the Oslo bombings.

Norway is in my prayers right now. The details of the events are intense... especially how he gunned down children at a camp.

All things aside, this was obviously a very disturbed individual. I can only speak for myself, but the gravity of this transcends mere politics.

My post from another thread. I felt that this subject needed to be re-started because there is too much discussion about radical Islam, which obviously has nothing to do with this case.

I wonder what the political reaction in Norway is going to be... especially to guns?
 
Anders Behring Breivik Identified As Suspect In Norway Shooting



My post from another thread. I felt that this subject needed to be re-started because there is too much discussion about radical Islam, which obviously has nothing to do with this case.

I wonder what the political reaction in Norway is going to be... especially to guns?


Why would guns have anything to do with it? Millions of them lay quiescent in their lockers, bothering no one... until some lunatic acts up with one. Recall there was also a bomb. OKC was done with fertilizer and diesel fuel. I can't imagine Norway being stupid enough to make this a gun control issue.
 
This article broke my heart.

Utøya, the island paradise turned into hell by Anders Behring Breivik | World news | The Observer

Some youngsters were shot dead in the lake as they tried to swim to safety. Others who played dead were killed at close range where they lay by the meticulous killer who checked his victims for signs of life before moving on, roaming the island and killing everyone he could find.

He began shooting just after 5pm and it was two hours later before 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik, wearing the uniform of a policeman and protective earplugs against his own deafening gunshots, apparently ran out of ammunition and was arrested by police Swat teams sent from Oslo.

"We saw bodies in the water and children who hid in caves and on cliffs, they dared not come out until we said the gunman was taken, then they came crawling out weeping and screaming," said Lise Berit Aronsen, who took her 14ft boat out after hearing of the shootings on the radio. "It was horrible to see children in that state."

Those killed ranged in age from 14-25.
 
Anyone know if Norway has the death penalty? If they don’t, this dud should be lodged in a cell as with a crazed relative of one of those shot.:2mad:
 
Apparently, being Norwegian and living in a Scandinavian paradise state drives some people crazy?

Hmm...
 
Hearing that this happened in what I cheerfully refer to as "Scandahoovia, the land of my forebears" is just so /tilt. It doesn't make any sense. I can't get it to.

My dad was first gen-fin, I was married to 100% Swede, my mom's mom was 100% Norwegian. Minnesota is just Norway lite. It's where the "nice" comes from. So why? What point was to be made??
 
Why would guns have anything to do with it? Millions of them lay quiescent in their lockers, bothering no one... until some lunatic acts up with one. Recall there was also a bomb. OKC was done with fertilizer and diesel fuel. I can't imagine Norway being stupid enough to make this a gun control issue.

the reports I heard is that he had a fully automatic military machine gun. hardly something you can buy legally in a Norwegian gun store I suspect the youth camp was completely free of firearms
 
Anyone know if Norway has the death penalty? If they don’t, this dud should be lodged in a cell as with a crazed relative of one of those shot.:2mad:

The EU outlawed the death penalty some years ago.
 
Hearing that this happened in what I cheerfully refer to as "Scandahoovia, the land of my forebears" is just so /tilt. It doesn't make any sense. I can't get it to.

My dad was first gen-fin, I was married to 100% Swede, my mom's mom was 100% Norwegian. Minnesota is just Norway lite. It's where the "nice" comes from. So why? What point was to be made??

No society is immune to nut-jobs.
 
the reports I heard is that he had a fully automatic military machine gun. hardly something you can buy legally in a Norwegian gun store I suspect the youth camp was completely free of firearms

He had bags of weapons and ammunition and has apparently shot over 300 bullets.
 
He had bags of weapons and ammunition and has apparently shot over 300 bullets.

Ya'd think that somewhere along the way people would get the message. GOD FORBID you should ever have to face an armed assailant...but when bullets start flying, charge the sonofabitch. He gets 2...10...20...he doesnt get 94...plus wounded. Yes...even teenagers. Laying down and pretending to play dead just got them dead. And I am NOT in ANY WAY blaming the kids or other victims. Just...PLEASE...for YOUR sake...learn some historical lessons!!!
 
Ya'd think that somewhere along the way people would get the message. GOD FORBID you should ever have to face an armed assailant...but when bullets start flying, charge the sonofabitch. He gets 2...10...20...he doesnt get 94...plus wounded. Yes...even teenagers. Laying down and pretending to play dead just got them dead. And I am NOT in ANY WAY blaming the kids or other victims. Just...PLEASE...for YOUR sake...learn some historical lessons!!!

many european paradises have turned people into sheep who have been told not to fight back
 
Ya'd think that somewhere along the way people would get the message. GOD FORBID you should ever have to face an armed assailant...but when bullets start flying, charge the sonofabitch. He gets 2...10...20...he doesnt get 94...plus wounded. Yes...even teenagers. Laying down and pretending to play dead just got them dead. And I am NOT in ANY WAY blaming the kids or other victims. Just...PLEASE...for YOUR sake...learn some historical lessons!!!

They don't teach those kinds of lessons in countries with a large Leftist majority. They believe that laws and regulations will protect them and there's no need to learn how to protect themselves.
 
Phew, liberals can now breathe a sigh of relief because he wasn't Muslim!

You really, really don't understand liberals at all.

Conservatives are so predictable. Muslim attack? Thread becomes about muslim terrorists and how liberals support them. Christian attack? Thread becomes about how its liberals' fault because they are "anti-gun."

Rained yesterday. Bet that was the fault of liberals too.
 
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You really, really don't understand liberals at all.

Conservatives are so predictable. Muslim attack? Thread becomes about muslim terrorists and how liberals support them. Christian attack? Thread becomes about how its liberals' fault because they are "anti-gun."

Rained yesterday. Bet that was the fault of liberals too.

Victim status, anyone?
 
Most of Europe lacks flocks of Rightist Psycho-Christians with guns blazing.


non sequitur. castrated subjects tend to be the normal population that loves nanny state socialism

People get arrested for shooting robbers who break into their homes in England. Here in america we see that as a good thing-if my neighbor blows away some home invader that means my home is less likely to be robbed
 
many european paradises have turned people into sheep who have been told not to fight back

LOL, yea right.

Tell me this... how is it better to live in a blood thirsty egocentric society where you risk getting killed by drive bys or a random crazy person with a gun? That you have the ability to "feel" safe and carry a gun? Does it make you feel more manly that you have life and death between your hands?
 
non sequitur. castrated subjects tend to be the normal population that loves nanny state socialism

People get arrested for shooting robbers who break into their homes in England. Here in america we see that as a good thing-if my neighbor blows away some home invader that means my home is less likely to be robbed

And they get released again.... So you are by the idea that if a guy shoots another guy who is in his home and then the first guy tells the cops "he broke in" then the cops should not arrest the first guy because he is claiming that the guy broke in? Are you serious that such pathetic police work happens in the US? That a killers word is more valuable than facts?
 
LOL, yea right.

Tell me this... how is it better to live in a blood thirsty egocentric society where you risk getting killed by drive bys or a random crazy person with a gun? That you have the ability to "feel" safe and carry a gun? Does it make you feel more manly that you have life and death between your hands?


If you don't do drugs or hang out with drug dealers your chance of getting murdered in the USA are lower than many parts of europe. Do you feel more ladylike by being disarmed?
 
And they get released again.... So you are by the idea that if a guy shoots another guy who is in his home and then the first guy tells the cops "he broke in" then the cops should not arrest the first guy because he is claiming that the guy broke in? Are you serious that such pathetic police work happens in the US? That a killers word is more valuable than facts?

self defense is not a legal option in many eurosocialist nations. we know about that poor british fellow who got charged for shooting some robbers who broke into his abode.
 
Ya'd think that somewhere along the way people would get the message. GOD FORBID you should ever have to face an armed assailant...but when bullets start flying, charge the sonofabitch. He gets 2...10...20...he doesnt get 94...plus wounded. Yes...even teenagers. Laying down and pretending to play dead just got them dead. And I am NOT in ANY WAY blaming the kids or other victims. Just...PLEASE...for YOUR sake...learn some historical lessons!!!

Damn straight. Get pissed, get mad, and go after that punk. Make him eat that gun. You want to think that even if he plugs you in the chest your will and momentum will crash into him allowing someone else to charge him.

I know it is sometimes easier said than done and one can't feel too matched in your bathing suit against an armed assailant.

I truly like to believe that anyone who pulls a gun out on a passenger airplane in America is going to trigger a mass charge on him by passengers.
 
Why would guns have anything to do with it? Millions of them lay quiescent in their lockers, bothering no one... until some lunatic acts up with one. Recall there was also a bomb. OKC was done with fertilizer and diesel fuel. I can't imagine Norway being stupid enough to make this a gun control issue.

I think it's reasonable to bring up guns, and I'd expect a reasonable reaction to the specific situation, not something extreme like a gun ban. As to the bomb, I saw a forensics show once about how some fertilizers and explosives can be manufactured to include a resin that will not be destroyed. The resins are individual to each manufacture and each explosive, so it's easier to prove an individual did purchase the explosives and worked with them in their home or garage. In America there is no laws requiring any company to include such resins and compounds in the manufacturing process. I think these are all relevant points that should be discussed. We all just want to be safer, having a discussion about safety shouldn't be considered a taboo and shut down.
 


Obviously it isn't just your typical homicide involving a gun death... I don't know much about the gun he used or his past run ins with the law involving guns, etc. but I'd like to know how easy it is to get that much ammo? Most people don't need that much ammo to defend their home or go hunting with. That doesn't seem right, and I'll admit, I don't know the facts yet.
 
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