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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    “I’ve been left at the altar twice now.” — President Obama, today, after Spearker Boehner walked out of debt ceiling negotiations

    It takes two to make a deal and so far the Republicans have proved incapable of holding up their side.
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    What's with these Republicans? Twice now they have walked out on negotiations about how to defend and protect the full faith and credit of the United States of America. How do you pick up and walk out on that? It's outrageous.
    A better question is why Obama put the full faith and credit of United States of America at risk in the first place, but I think we can wait until next November to deal with that one.

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    A better question is why Obama put the full faith and credit of United States of America at risk in the first place, but I think we can wait until next November to deal with that one.

    Solutions?
    After spending trillions in a down economy, he's fixated on a tax increase that will bring in something like 80 billion, and a corporate jet tax that you could collect for 5000 years and still not cover Obama's 2010 spending bill.

    Had he been thinking ahead and started the jet tax when cro-magnon man was hunting cave bears and mammoths, we'd probably have come pretty close to covering the debt he'll incur over his Presidency.
    It is the republicans who have put the credit of the US at risk. They had no problem doing it 11 times when bush* was a president, but it's wrong when there's a democrat in the white house.

    The republicans are so determined to be the party of NO!! that they rejected a plan that gave them much of what they wanted because of their inability to compromise on tax increases that even YOU admit are miniscule.
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It is the republicans who have put the credit of the US at risk. They had no problem doing it 11 times when bush* was a president, but it's wrong when there's a democrat in the white house.

    The republicans are so determined to be the party of NO!! that they rejected a plan that gave them much of what they wanted because of their inability to compromise on tax increases that even YOU admit are miniscule.
    And which of Obama's plans did they reject, and how long has this plan of BHO's been in the works?

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And which of Obama's plans did they reject, ?
    All of them
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post

    Boehner? I hope it was worth it, you worthless sac (spelling intentional) of ****.
    tell me again about how what really irritates you about politics is the personal attacks on the leaders of parties whom we oppose? I do seem to recall you complaining about people making derogatory remarks about the President, suggesting it was somehow wrong....

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    All of them
    all of them? i think you mean zero. which is also, technically, "all of them".

    there is only one plan write now, in writing, where everyone can see - an actual plan. that is cut cap and balance. we have a plan in semi writing in the Gang of Six, who depend on savings coming from "increased government efficiencies" and "congress tries really really really hard to reign itself in" style measures. everything else is just leaks and words in the wind.

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    all of them? i think you mean zero. which is also, technically, "all of them".

    there is only one plan write now, in writing, where everyone can see - an actual plan. that is cut cap and balance. we have a plan in semi writing in the Gang of Six, who depend on savings coming from "increased government efficiencies" and "congress tries really really really hard to reign itself in" style measures. everything else is just leaks and words in the wind.
    No, I meant what I said. It's sad when an argument can only be made by putting words in other peoples' mouths.
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    “I’ve been left at the altar twice now.” — President Obama, today, after Spearker Boehner walked out of debt ceiling negotiations

    It takes two to make a deal and so far the Republicans have proved incapable of holding up their side.
    if you're intended walks up to the altar and tells you right before you take your vows that they still intend to cheat on you, you are not wrong for walking away.

    the President had $800 Bn in increased taxes, and at the last minute announced that was fine but he was going to add in juuuust this $400 billion more.

    good on Boehner for walking away.

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yeah, they promised Reagan the same thing. We're not falling for that trick again.
    and Bush Sr. fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me a third time? no thanks, you had your two.

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