What part of the Constitution gave Lincoln the right to go to war against seceding states? What part gave him the right to free slaves by executive decree? Did this stop him? I think he was right, but the narrow view of the Constitution that says he did not have this power is exactly what paralyzed James Buchanan, who is probably the worst President in history.
Do you need documentation that the Civil War actually occurred, or can we take that as given? Do you need documentation that the country changed afterwards? Because it's pretty obvious to most people with an 11th grade education that it did.
I know that parts of the Constitution, as written, did not change. I'm not arguing that they did. I'm arguing that the nature of the Union changed regardless.
Whenever you think of Obama, think 'Cloward-Piven'. That's the name of the strategy by which Obama has sabotaged our economy. Everything he says and does goes to the full employment of that strategy. Obama seeks the destruction of the American economy by overloading it with debt.
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Funny, seeing as how President Bush went and created the current deficit (The Bush Budget Deficit Death Spiral) (The Progress Report: The Bush Deficit)
As well as the Republicans created the current debt. ($12 Trillion Republican National Debt)
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the government has grown from about 20.5% of GDP under Bush to 24.5% under Obama. But, since government does not tax itself the same as it taxes investment, production, and labor; as it increases it's share of the economy, it pushes down taxes as a % of GDP. That is the reason for your oversize deficit right there.
servicing the debt acquired under bush is not driving our deficit any more than servicing the debt acquired under Obama is.Most of it was passed under bush* or was required by legislation passed under bush*. For example, Obama has to service all the debt accumulated under reagan, ghwb and bush*. It's the law.
on the contrary - i fully understand that cost. you don't seem to understand it's proportion to the rest of federal spending. Obama's spending hikes belong to him.And you'll never explain why Obamas' having to service debt created under reagan, ghwb and bush* is Obamas fault, because you can't
It was not small. but you are correct that that is far from the only piece of profligate spending that has been inflicted upon us.The stimulus bill is Obamas responsibility, but that does not account for the entire increase in spending. It was just one small piece of the increase.
then Democrats share just as much the spending increases that Bush put it; more so since they actually wrote the budget for the last two years of his presidency.And plenty of repubicans voted to extend UI benefits. They share in that too.
indeed, but let's not revert to arguments about how most of Obama's ramped-up spending is somehow Bush's fault. let Bush take the blame for his own spending, and let Obama take the blame for his.Good for you. I have never said that the entire increase in spending is all on bush*. However, the facts clearly show that they are also not entirely on Obama either. In some cases, both parties are to blame. In others Obama. And in others, bush
Again, the fact that Obama has increased funding for that doesn't mean that bush* is absolved of responsibility for the spending on education that passed under bush*[/QUOTE]
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