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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    I am honestly not even paying attention to this mess... I think they'll sort something out, because if they don't raise the ceiling the results will be disastrous and nobody wants to risk getting blamed.

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    The President gave them everything, against the will of his own party - and they still said no. Therefore.

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    I think the above is an obvious lie. Everything they wanted would have been 6 trillion in cuts and no revenue. What they were talking about is 1-1.5 trillion in cuts and .8-1.2 trillion in taxes.

    Is this a debate on facts or just a site to emote.

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Does anybody else feel like they're on the wrong end of a game of "Good Cop-Bad Cop"?
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
    The Psychology of Persuasion

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I am honestly not even paying attention to this mess... I think they'll sort something out, because if they don't raise the ceiling the results will be disastrous and nobody wants to risk getting blamed.
    I think we're headed down that road, and we'll soon find out who's right. Economists or the Tea Party. Of course the Cons will be out in full force blaming it on Obama, after they all said it wouldn't be so bad.

    I must admit that this will be a little fun, except for the whole "collapse" thing.


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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    And sometimes, they just speak my mind for me.

    "Speaker Boehner's adult moment is long overdue," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

    "Republicans have once again proven unable to overcome their ideological opposition to ending taxpayer-funded giveaways for millionaires, corporate jet owners and oil companies." said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.
    Debt talks between White House, GOP leaders collapse - KansasCity.com

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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    See Obama was the nice adult here just wanting higher taxes and more government spending and Boehner said "woah man, we're like way over budget here, and like no dude, we gotta stop spending"

    So all the little Obamalytes are now going all emo.
    Liar. The Democrats are supporting spending cuts too. 3 dollars cut to every dollar increase in taxes, in fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    I think the above is an obvious lie. Everything they wanted would have been 6 trillion in cuts and no revenue. What they were talking about is 1-1.5 trillion in cuts and .8-1.2 trillion in taxes.

    Is this a debate on facts or just a site to emote.
    No, first the Republicans asked for 1 trillion. Then 2. Then 4. Now six?
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse - Political Hotsheet - CBS News



    Boehner? I hope it was worth it, you worthless sac (spelling intentional) of ****.
    Don't be so quick to judge. It's a possible good means of trying to get more on their side, just as it is a good means for Obama to call out Boehner and the Republicans for "walking away."
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Remarks by the President | The White House

    Full comments.

    Q Standing here tonight, Mr. President, can you assure the American people that they will get their Social Security checks on August 3rd? And if not, who’s to blame?

    THE PRESIDENT: Well, when it comes to all the checks, not just Social Security -- veterans, people with disabilities -- about 70 million checks are sent out each month -- if we default then we’re going to have to make adjustments. And I’m already consulting with Secretary Geithner in terms of what the consequences would be.

    We should not even be in that kind of scenario. And if Congress -- and in particular, the House Republicans -- are not willing to make sure that we avoid default, then I think it’s fair to say that they would have to take responsibility for whatever problems arise in those payments. Because, let me repeat, I’m not interested in finger-pointing and I’m not interested in blame, but I just want the facts to speak for themselves.

    We have put forward a plan that is more generous to Republican concerns than a bipartisan plan that was supported by a number of Republican senators, including at least one that is in Republican leadership in the Senate. Now, I’ll leave it up to the American people to make a determination as to how fair that is. And if the leadership cannot come to an agreement in terms of how we move forward, then I think they will hold all of us accountable.

    But that shouldn’t even be an option. That should not be an option. I’m getting letters from people who write me and say, at the end of every month I have to skip meals. Senior citizens on Social Security who are just hanging on by a thread. Folks who have severe disabilities who are desperate every single month to try to figure out how they’re going to make ends meet. But it’s not just those folks. You’ve got business contractors who are providing services to the federal government, who have to wonder are they going to be able to get paid and what does that do in terms of their payrolls.
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Liar. The Democrats are supporting spending cuts too. 3 dollars cut to every dollar increase in taxes, in fact.



    No, first the Republicans asked for 1 trillion. Then 2. Then 4. Now six?
    V, you'd never be able to post again if you weren't allowed to emote.

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