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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    How long has reading comprehension been a problem? The government is made up of Republicans and Democrats. Deltabtry is saying a POX on both parties, but you just fail to comprehend English. And during the Clinton Era, where were the GOP? Weren't they in control of the co-equal branch of Congress? How many times did President Clinton veto welfare reform before he saw the light and took credit for changing it?

    Deltabtry is the one who is correct here. The stitch is not.
    But the fact remains that when it comes to the debt, one party is more to blame than the other, as my post clearly shows
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Seriously? You don't understand how we could have a budget surplus and govt debt?

    Even after I already explained it?
    So we have a surplus?
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    The problem with your solution has been proven right here on this site. The Constitution no longer has any meaning to people on the left; except for what they want it to mean. Madison and Hamilton knew nothing about the Constitution. Modern liberals are the only ones who understand the "living" Constitution.
    The rightwingers love the Constitution so much, they can't stop calling for it to be changed.
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I take it you do not recall the speech President Obama gave chiding Cong. Ryan's budget as Ryan was sitting in the audience at the invitation of the President.
    I take it you do not recall the republican shouting "You Lie!!" during a SOTU speech
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I take it you do not recall the republican shouting "You Lie!!" during a SOTU speech
    So you believe in supporting a classless act, to the death.
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    So wait. How do you explain $4trillion in accrued debt in 2.5 years, then? When we had a dem controlled white house, senate, and house?
    Easy

    1) Obama has to pay interest on all the debt accumulated by Reagan, GHWB, and bush* because it's the law

    2) Obama had to spend TARP money in FY2009 and FY2010 because it's the law

    3) Obama has to fund Medicare D, passed by republicans, because it's the law

    4) Obama has to fund all the pgms in the pork laden Farm, Energy and Transportation bills passed by repulicans, because it's the law

    5) Obama has to fund the HSA because it's the law

    6) Obama has to fund the TSA because it's the law

    7) Obama had to pay unemployment insurance to all the unemployed created by bush* because it's the law

    All of those expensive spending bills were passed by a republican congress (except UI, which has been around for decades) and signed into law by a republican president

    But it's all Obamas' fault
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Post a link to at least one plan the dems (not a bipartisan group, just dems) have come up with.
    Congressional Progressive Caucus : FY2012 Progressive Budget
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'd agree, but I find your "Madison and Hamilton" statement interesting. Madison and Hamilton didn't agree on what it said. You'd think that they would know, but they profoundly disagreed about it.

    If the people that wrote the thing can't agree on what it says, you can't expect us to agree 200+ years later.
    "didn't agree" is a massive understatement. Their disagreement is what led to the two party system
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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I take it you do not recall the republican shouting "You Lie!!" during a SOTU speech
    I recall it, and applauded him for it. Turns out Joe Wilson at the time was also correct, it was a lie. The outburst was also inappropriate given the setting, but Obama's diahhrea of the mouth does get to some people after a while.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama, Boehner at war over debt talk collapse

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So we have a surplus?
    We *HAD* a surplus.....that is until bush* and the republicans went on their spending spree
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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