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The stimulus was not 4.5T which the rightiies keep repeating. And a good deal of it was tax credits, not spending. Trying to blame the entire increase in spending on the stimulus and the extension of UI is ludicrous
no one is saying that the stimulus was 4.5T. I have seen several people point out that once you fully account for it it approaches 1T. and nobody blames the entire increase on those two factors along. we've had Cash for Clunkers, we've added another li'l war, we've expanded funding for every department except defense.... we've done alot of spending lately on alot of things.
the government has grown from about 20.5% of GDP under Bush to 24.5% under Obama. But, since government does not tax itself the same as it taxes investment, production, and labor; as it increases it's share of the economy, it pushes down taxes as a % of GDP. That is the reason for your oversize deficit right there.
Most of it was passed under bush* or was required by legislation passed under bush*. For example, Obama has to service all the debt accumulated under reagan, ghwb and bush*. It's the law.
servicing the debt acquired under bush is not driving our deficit any more than servicing the debt acquired under Obama is.
And you'll never explain why Obamas' having to service debt created under reagan, ghwb and bush* is Obamas fault, because you can't
on the contrary - i fully understand that cost. you don't seem to understand it's proportion to the rest of federal spending. Obama's spending hikes belong to him.
The stimulus bill is Obamas responsibility, but that does not account for the entire increase in spending. It was just one small piece of the increase.
It was not small. but you are correct that that is far from the only piece of profligate spending that has been inflicted upon us.
And plenty of repubicans voted to extend UI benefits. They share in that too.
then Democrats share just as much the spending increases that Bush put it; more so since they actually wrote the budget for the last two years of his presidency.
Good for you. I have never said that the entire increase in spending is all on bush*. However, the facts clearly show that they are also not entirely on Obama either. In some cases, both parties are to blame. In others Obama. And in others, bush
indeed, but let's not revert to arguments about how most of Obama's ramped-up spending is somehow Bush's fault. let Bush take the blame for his own spending, and let Obama take the blame for his.
Again, the fact that Obama has increased funding for that doesn't mean that bush* is absolved of responsibility for the spending on education that passed under bush*[/QUOTE]