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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    If there is one thing I am ashamed about Obama is his demeanor. He has the upper ground in this, yet it still seems to me he is giving in to the GOP on many issues, including Taxes.... specifically Bush tax cuts, which make me sick even talking about them. He needs to take a stand. DEMAND higher taxes, or watch your party (GOP) burn. 80% of Americans dis-approve of congress right now in a recent poll, i believe its 46% dis-approve of Obama. Still a bad satistic on Obamas part, but still in the drivers seat. I think he is a pretty smart guy, going in front of the public like he does, gives Americans a sense of "atleast someones looking out."

    I watch ALOT of news, but the Average american probably watches an hour each night. It doesnt surprise me Obama has a poor approval rating right now, because the average american gets their "opinionated" news off the radio, which is largely republican biased media. I know whats going on in washington, I know whos holding us back, its the GOP...not directly....many good GOP leaders in power right now, specifically this damn tea party movement. IT NEEDS TO DIE OUT.
    So just for the record. You are in favor of getting rid of the entire Bush tax cuts. I agree they are unafordable and if congress got rid of them all, instead of cherrypicking that would be great.

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    So just for the record. You are in favor of getting rid of the entire Bush tax cuts. I agree they are unafordable and if congress got rid of them all, instead of cherrypicking that would be great.
    I believe that was the deal until Friday when the President wanted $400 billion more in taxes.

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I believe that was the deal until Friday when the President wanted $400 billion more in taxes.
    No that would be a lot more than 400 billion over ten year, it would be something like 3 trillion.

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So do I, and it could happen that way. My cynicism proves wrong as much as 5% of the time, after all.

    But I wouldn't put too much faith in the tea party.[sic]
    I'm pretty sure the Tea Parties don't care about how much faith you or I have in them. I'm just glad that they have put pressure on Congress to downsize the current government. I hope they succeed.

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    No that would be a lot more than 400 billion over ten year, it would be something like 3 trillion.
    I believe the deal was for $800 billion over ten years and the President demanded $400 billion more over ten years.

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Ok. I am getting sick of conservatives defending their new nazi party. If you are TRUE republican, and agree with what the GOP is doing in congress right now, you either are in denial that your party has held this country hostage, or you have a brain disorder that does not allow you to process real information. If you stand on NO TAXES, its probably because you think taxes would change for you, personally. This is incorrect. The republican party loves scaring Americans about tax hikes, unwilling to tell you Obama wants increases directly on those making 250,000 and above. This would not affect the average person.

    If you look at real satistical facts over the last few decades, you will see whenever there is tax increase, job creation spurs, along with major defecit reduction. It happened in the Clinton years, and it would happen again, if your party would be willing to take the gun away from Americas head. All this TAXES WOULD KILL JOBS B.S. is the GOP directly protecting their employers, the rich, who are scared to death they may actually have to live with only 6 cars, instead of 10.

    The GOP use to be respectable, and actually made sense at times, but this direction they are heading in right now is not only crazy, its really dangerous. America was setup to put aside differences at the end, and make decisions based on whats best for the PEOPLE, not corporations, not land owners, the PEOPLE. We are becoming a country of un-ending greed. If things dont change soon, I give this country 10-20 years max.
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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I believe the deal was for $800 billion over ten years and the President demanded $400 billion more over ten years.
    The extra 400 billion was to raise rates on the upper bracket people. It was a lousy negotiating tactic. If you were ever in a major negotiation, you would know that throwing in a point that is impossible for the other side just causes a breakdown in talks. The President understands the game he is playing. The good news for him short term is that most of the people are buying his pronouncements as if they are fact. Sad that even at the expense of throwing the country into another recession he is more than willing to play politics ( not that the other side is any better).

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    The extra 400 billion was to raise rates on the upper bracket people. It was a lousy negotiating tactic. If you were ever in a major negotiation, you would know that throwing in a point that is impossible for the other side just causes a breakdown in talks. The President understands the game he is playing. The good news for him short term is that most of the people are buying his pronouncements as if they are fact. Sad that even at the expense of throwing the country into another recession he is more than willing to play politics ( not that the other side is any better).
    On this note, I will offer no rebuttal.

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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I'm pretty sure the Tea Parties don't care about how much faith you or I have in them. I'm just glad that they have put pressure on Congress to downsize the current government. I hope they succeed.
    There are too many nutters in the Tea Party whether or not I remember to capitalize the phrase.
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    Re: Still No Budget Deal - Current Happenings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    There are too many nutters in the Tea Party whether or not I remember to capitalize the phrase.
    Sory, but I wasn't concerned about your capitalization. If anything was wrong, it would be your use of the singular, party. It's plural.

    You say that average Americans are nutters. Okay. That's you opinion.

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