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Explosions In Norway

I just don't agree that the gunman in Norway was insane. Disturbed maybe, but insane? He had clearly laid out and logical reasons for his attacks. You can read his blog. He was pissed off with the way Europe was being radically transformed by the left. His sentiments may have lead to extreme action, but a lot of people share them. Regionalization and globalization have a lot of people scared. Communities are changing rapidly, many beyond recognition within a single lifetime, at the behest of the agendas of governments and a select few globalist institutions. It just takes a few additional social conditions for particular people to crack and go on shooting rampages, i.e. radical ideologies.

I obviously don't support gunning down people as a way to solve problems. There are better ways. I do however support mass and violent protests, as well as revolutions where they are necessary to topple tyrannical regimes. What lies behind this situation is an angry and frustrated person who is acting out against the invisible walls that have been raised around him. He did it the wrong way. Now people will hate the right-wing and religious even more.
 
Temporal said:
If the Fascists of WWII were leftist, why were they exterminating Communists? Answer me that.
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He was simply eliminating any competition. He sought to destroy Christianity for the same reason.
 
1Perry said:
He was simply eliminating any competition. He sought to destroy Christianity for the same reason.
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Yes, Adolf was a nut, saw the enemy in everyone who didn't agree with him or his insane views and goals. If any comparison can be made to the Norway tragedy, its the connection from one disturbed mind to another.
 
SheWolf said:
I have never heard of that rule, and I mentioned racism but you're the first to call anybody racist...
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And it was a rightwinger who raised the race card first...on the very 1st page of this thread

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apdst said:
The facts? Communism and Facism are both based on socialism. Before Musssolini and Hitler were facists, they were socialists.
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Ugh so much wrong with that statement I dont' know where to begin. Unless you want to admit that socialism actually works economically, becase the Nazis were very economical astute - setting aside all the insane stuff they did.
 
GarzaUK said:
Ugh so much wrong with that statement I dont' know where to begin. Unless you want to admit that socialism actually works economically, becase the Nazis were very economical astute - setting aside all the insane stuff they did.
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It's not good to enter the bizarre world of the Christian Conservative. It might reach out like the Norwegian gunman if you deny its beliefs.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
It's not good to enter the bizarre world of the Christian Conservative. It might reach out like the Norwegian gunman if you deny it's beliefs.
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A right wing nutjob basically decided to kill as much "lefties" as possible, he killed an extraordinary amount of young teens, whatever his political viewpoints it is unforgiveable. Christains (left or right) are not as moral as the rest of us.
 
The Norweigans must be as shell-shocked and horrified by this as Americans were after Oklahoma City. Home-grown terrorism is frankly more frightening than the imported kind, because we can at least mentally distance ourselves if some strange foreigner with "bizarre" political and religious values does horrible stuff. But for one of our own to do it? That's bone-chilling.

This must be the worse single act of terrorism in their tiny nation's history. More than 91 dead at last count. Dear lord, those poor people. :(
 
GarzaUK said:
Ugh so much wrong with that statement I dont' know where to begin. Unless you want to admit that socialism actually works economically, becase the Nazis were very economical astute - setting aside all the insane stuff they did.
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Socialism, Communism, Facism: they're all based on state control of the economy and the society.

People ignorantly parrot that, "Facism is Right Wing and Communism is Left Wing", as if they are somehow opposite to each other, which couldn't be further from the truth.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's not good to enter the bizarre world of the Christian Conservative. It might reach out like the Norwegian gunman if you deny its beliefs.
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What makes you think I'm a Christian?
 
Deuce said:
Yeah, that's what you say now. How about when it's someone on the left being violent? You don't talk about liberal violence ever?
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what are you ranting about-violence tends to be caused by extremist governments or extremist groups. extremists tend to end up in the same place whether they started from the left and moved farther left or from the right and went farther right. either way the violence tends to be about the same
 
1Perry said:
He was simply eliminating any competition. He sought to destroy Christianity for the same reason.
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yeah, I call it the two praying mantises in a bottle syndrome. sometimes the exact same thing is its worst enemy
 
Fascists, from an economic standpoint, call themselves 'Third Positionists', and no, fascism has nothing to do with antisemitism, etc.; that sort of policy platform depends on the whims of Party politics, not fascism per se. The American President FDR more resembles a fascist administration in more ways than it resembles a 'left wing' government, after all he bailed out his rich banker friends first, but in any case, governments that can switch between the various economic policies as they fit changing circumstances, rather than slavishly following some ideological fantasy or other, will always fare better those that lack that flexibility.

Whatever nuts like this mentally ill person choose to follow is of no consequence; they're nuts, after all. Anybody who thinks he isn't a nut case should be watched closely themselves ...

Carry on with the strawmen, Xian bashing, and whatever fallacies fit your personal ideological fantasy agenda; I'm just inserting a pointless commentary for my own amusement here.
 
Manc Skipper said:
It's not good to enter the bizarre world of the Christian Conservative. It might reach out like the Norwegian gunman if you deny its beliefs.
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True. Nobody can remember the last time a christian Sunday service didn't end with the traditional lynchings, mob violence against colored people, torch bearing mobs chasing down homosexuals and killing them, etc.You know, all the usual christian stuff. This happens at millions of churches every week here in the U.S., and I'm sure it's true in Great Britain as well. It's all positively hellish. Just because it's never in the papers doesn't mean it isn't true and a bunch of exaggerated nonsense, right?
 
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Oberon said:
True. Nobody can remember the last time a christian Sunday service didn't end with the traditional lynchings, mob violence against colored people, torch bearing mobs chasing down homosexuals and killing them, etc.You know, all the usual christian stuff. This happens at millions of churches every week here in the U.S., and I'm sure it's true in Great Britain as well. It's all positively hellish. Just because it's never in the papers doesn't mean it isn't true and a bunch of exaggerated nonsense, right?
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Your sarcasm rocks!!!!
 
apdst said:
Socialism, Communism, Facism: they're all based on state control of the economy and the society.

People ignorantly parrot that, "Facism is Right Wing and Communism is Left Wing", as if they are somehow opposite to each other, which couldn't be further from the truth.
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Fascism and Communism are on opposite sides where economic policies are concerned, absolutely. But far right wing, and far left wing have dictatorship in common, liberalism is the enemy of fascism and communism, it always has been.
 
Oberon said:
True. Nobody can remember the last time a christian Sunday service didn't end with the traditional lynchings, mob violence against colored people, torch bearing mobs chasing down homosexuals and killing them, etc.You know, all the usual christian stuff. This happens at millions of churches every week here in the U.S., and I'm sure it's true in Great Britain as well. It's all positively hellish. Just because it's never in the papers doesn't mean it isn't true and a bunch of exaggerated nonsense, right?
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Religion makes good people do bad things outside the normal parameters of society.
 
rocket88 said:
It's sex, drugs and rock and roll, not sex, drugs and the FBI.
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you keep your fetishes and vices and I will keep mine:mrgreen:
 
GarzaUK said:
True. Totaly agree, religion is like drugs, booze and sex.
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the opiate of the masses for years

now I would say government handouts pacify the masses more than masses pacify the masses
 
TurtleDude said:
the opiate of the masses for years

now I would say government handouts pacify the masses more than masses pacify the masses
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Government is useful for somethings, or else there would be no government. But this isn't a thread about government, so I will let it be. But yes religion, drugs, booze is an opiate. Unfortunately this individual used his opiate to murder 90 odd innocent people, most of whom will never become an adult, their only crime, was being socialist.
 
GarzaUK said:
Government is useful for somethings, or else there would be no government. But this isn't a thread about government, so I will let it be. But yes religion, drugs, booze is an opiate. Unfortunately this individual used his opiate to murder 90 odd innocent people, most of whom will never become an adult, their only crime, was being socialist.
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I have a feeling that lots of those poor children had no clue what they are or were or were going to be.

Just because their parents sent them to some young socialists camp
 
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