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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What the **** are you babbling about? I posted information from AP and you attacked me over the informaiton and once I called you on your attack, you refuse to apologize?

    YOU made a mistake by dismissing the comment as something I made up by claiming I am trying to deflect attention away from the non existent Muslim link to the attack...

    Just admit you got caught with your pants down...
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Okay I have read back almost 3 years of his rantings.

    He sounds like quite a few of the right wingers on these boards. Does this sound familiar?



    Islam has historically killed 300 million people
    Communism has historically killed 100 million people
    Nazism has historically killed 6-20 million people.

    Kinda chilling.

    He is against multiculturalism, dislikes the UN as he sees them as forcing multiculturalism on countries with its refugee policies. He blames Muslims and left wingers for everything and is a cultural conservative. He also rambles on how weak the "conservative" parties have become in Norway (including the party he was a member off) and Europe and that if they implemented the strict cultural conservative views he had, then people would flock to them.

    He believes his church is weak (he is a protestant, baptised at 15 by his own choice) and wants "back to basics".. he even hints on wanting Norway to become Roman Catholic again...

    He also mentions his admiration of Lou Dobbs for standing up to the political correct mass media over illegal immigration in the US.

    Also he left the party because he thought they were too political correct and weak on cultural and immigration policies... which is impressive considering their official policies.

    There is much more but would take a lot of time to jot down.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The facts? Communism and Facism are both based on socialism. Before Musssolini and Hitler were facists, they were socialists.

    Another fact? This wasn't, "attacking the left". It was most probably an attack on the government and there isn't much Right Wing government in Norway. Even the, "Right", is Leftist, by American standards.
    Fact, Communism and Socialism are ideologies based upon class struggle NOT nationalist or racial struggle.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have a feeling that lots of those poor children had no clue what they are or were or were going to be.

    Just because their parents sent them to some young socialists camp
    LOL you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

    1). The kids went there because they are politically active in the Labour Party youth wing.
    2). It was the kids that wanted to go, not the parents sending them.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Information that we now know about this terrorist.

    1) He is a white man, native Norwegian.
    2) He calls himself a Christian, and from his writings we can throw him on the radical evangelical side of Christianity. He wants to go "back to basics" on the religious front.
    3) He calls himself a cultural conservative. This is based on his online writings. His views on many things are on the far right of European politics. He use to be a member of the mainstream far right Fremskridtspartiet in Norway but left them after disagreements with the party line. He is against the UN, multiculturalism, Muslims, immigration and the left and basically anyone he does not agree with. He blames the political correct parties (including Fremskridtspartiet) for the degeneration of Norwegian society.
    4) He is a nationalist big time.
    5) He has been planning this for 3+ years.
    6) He did make the bombs involved, according to the manifesto released online by him, on the day of the attacks. He claims the manifesto is his according to his lawyer.

    LiveLeak.com - Oslo Terrorist Anders Behring Breivik Manifesto

    The above link has links to the manifesto, plus a video he released to his Facebook friends and friend of friends on the day of the attack.

    7) The manifesto is a very detailed of the last 85 days of preparations.
    8) He owns a farm and hence can/could get access to the material used in the bomb.
    9) The police did not know anything about this, since his online persona, while far right wing, does not come with threats or any wacko ideas that would have triggered red flags.

    Things we dont know yet.

    1) Another attacker.. chances are getting small but there is still a chance there was others.
    2) Contacts to radical right wing groups in Europe and the US. Nothing has been confirmed yet, but there are some hints of him being in contact to groups in the two areas.. groups that share his political views.

    But one thing that is getting much clearer... he is going for the "crazy" card when it comes to his judicial case but regardless of this.. he is and always will be a terrorist.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    The Norweigans must be as shell-shocked and horrified by this as Americans were after Oklahoma City. Home-grown terrorism is frankly more frightening than the imported kind, because we can at least mentally distance ourselves if some strange foreigner with "bizarre" political and religious values does horrible stuff. But for one of our own to do it? That's bone-chilling.

    This must be the worse single act of terrorism in their tiny nation's history. More than 91 dead at last count. Dear lord, those poor people.
    Agreed. I can't imagine this happening in the Scandivnavian countries (Norway, Sweden, Finland). You know why. It's peaceful as Switzerland, more rich, more healthier, more happier. Hell, it's like heaven there. If there was terrorism in the West, people would name places like the US, UK and such, not Norway or Sweden
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    For those that want to show solidarity with the victims there is a facebook page event you can sign up on.

    https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=244185822272540
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    He's apparently a Neo-Nazi. What more can you say....
    Nothing. He could have also been a Bono fan; would that make a difference?

    As far as 'right wing atrocities', an examination of the historical record might just point out that left wing governments top the list of ideologies who kill its own citizens, along with others. Stalin, Pol Pot, that midget in Korea, Mao, several African dictators, etc. Maybe someone can start a thread and list the death tolls for left wing terrorism? I'm sure it would be enlightening.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    Nothing. He could have also been a Bono fan; would that make a difference?

    As far as 'right wing atrocities', an examination of the historical record might just point out that left wing governments top the list of ideologies who kill its own citizens, along with others. Stalin, Pol Pot, that midget in Korea, Mao, several African dictators, etc. Maybe someone can start a thread and list the death tolls for left wing terrorism? I'm sure it would be enlightening.
    Could swear I have read something along these lines somewhere very recently... oh yea it was in Norwegian.

    Listen yes Stalin, Pol Pot, and so on are a stain on the "left wing" of world politics.. they were/are also self centred egotistical brutal dictators. Pinchoet, the Junta in Argentina and others, also are mass murdering dictatorships, but are of the right wing kind. And that is just the 20th century. If we go back in history 4000+ years every mass murder, genocide and what not.. was on the right wing of politics and often driven by religious fanatism and egocentric royalty dictatorships. And lets not forget that even in our own times, right wing policies drove places like Aparthied South Africa, and meant that countries run by right wing governments refused to put sanctions up against South Africa.. you know Reagan and Thatcher... Or right wing governments that sold drugs, guns to terrorists, or supported other right wing dictators with death squads.

    But go ahead and agree with this mass murdering radical Christian terrorist in Norway... we have freedom of opinion, but expect to be called on it at every turn for what it is... selective partisan history.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Norway police arrive 90 minutes after firing began - Yahoo! News

    Can't say much for the Norwegian Police. Looks like it took them over an hour to finish jerking off before they could get over there.
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