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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Pete was right in the beginning. He said it could have been a right winger, and he mentioned the right wing over there makes the American GOP look like pussies. So now I am a little concerned. It's frightening that Pete was right, and I am wondering what the heck is wrong with the right wing over there. What does their right wing do exactly? What are their goals? Is this going to happen more often?

    When I lived in Germany the NPD Party was basically the neo nazi party and filled with hate, but it wasn't that strong. The most I saw them do was try to have nazi rallies march in the streets, but people would quickly counter protest them and they were outnumbered. The right wing in Germany doesn't seem bad at all compared to this.
    Just one clarification... when I say right winger then it is a rather large segment. I based the comment on the fact that it was left wing youth and a left wing government buildings that were attacked. I had no idea at the time how far he might be on the right wing, but from what we know now, it is pretty far out there.

    So this guy is on the far far right wing and is a small minority. The old fashioned right wing (democrats or moderate Republicans in US speak) are by far the largest portion of the right wing in Europe. Now there are overlapping political views of the far far right and the traditional right but that is mostly on the economic front and certain social aspects. Where they differ is often on cultural and immigration issues and in some cases religious. This guy is closer to the Neo Nazies than the traditional right wing, but never the less his political views almost solely belong on the right wing of the political spectrum. Oh and he is also a big time nationalist...
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman_Spiff View Post
    The distance between Utoya Island and Oslo is about 25 miles. So 2 hours would have been ample time to set off a car bomb in Oslo and then drive to Utoya.

    When you refer to Lake Ressvetnet, what lake are you talking about? I searched the Internet and nothing came up.

    Also, Utoya is on the Tyrifjorden.
    Thats a different Utoya

    Rossvatnet Lake is the lake where Uytoa Island is located. I misspelled Rossvetnet. It is 500 miles from Oslo through mountains. Lake Rossvatnet is in southern Nordland County close to the border with Sweden. Utoya Island is a long way from Oslo.

    Lake Rossvatnet is a large lake. It is in a very remote region of Norway. This guy had to have help. When you find Lake Rossvetnet look for Uytoa Island off of a south facing shore around mid lake.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...itical-geo.png


    This is the coordinates of Uytoa Island. The placement on map is
    +65° 48' 5.56", +14° 0' 6.85" or 65.801545, 14.001904
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Thats a different Utoya

    Rossvatnet Lake is the lake where Uytoa Island is located. I misspelled Rossvetnet. It is 500 miles from Oslo through mountains. Lake Rossvatnet is in southern Nordland County close to the border with Sweden. Utoya Island is a long way from Oslo.

    Lake Rossvatnet is a large lake. It is in a very remote region of Norway. This guy had to have help.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...itical-geo.png
    You are wrong and Spaceman_Spiff is correct. The Utoeya in question is on Tyrifjörden. c.40km from Oslo.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Thats a different Utoya

    Rossvatnet Lake is the lake where Uytoa Island is located. I misspelled Rossvetnet. It is 500 miles from Oslo through mountains. Lake Rossvatnet is in southern Nordland County close to the border with Sweden. Utoya Island is a long way from Oslo.

    Lake Rossvatnet is a large lake. It is in a very remote region of Norway. This guy had to have help. When you find Lake Rossvetnet look for Uytoa Island off of a south facing shore around mid lake.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...itical-geo.png
    The island is 1 hour away from Oslo in a car/bus. The attacks on the island started 2 hours after the bombing.

    He might have had help, but he could also have done it himself.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The island is 1 hour away from Oslo in a car/bus. The attacks on the island started 2 hours after the bombing.

    He might have had help, but he could also have done it himself.
    You all are wrong. The Island is 500 miles from Olso. Look at google maps satilite image of the Uytoa Island in Rossvetnet lake. It is the exact shape and distance from shore as the one they are showing on the news.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    I guess Im wrong because the news says he got on a ferry in Oslo and went to the Island. I am looking for this Island near Oslo and am unable to find it. Google does not recognise Nordic names for some reason.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post

    It is the far right of European politics based on xenophobia and anti-immigration feelings.
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    And the far left was able to impose its ideas without public participation and their response to the consequences is to blame it on "the far right of European politics based on xenophobia and anti-immigration feelings". This is the usual response from leftists when their hair-brained schemes run awry. Their history is peppered with equal mixes of farce and vanity, and they're always are shocked at the inevitably disastrous results from their theories..

    They apparently could not foresee the idea that people would protest at losing their culture and liberties. Instead the left came up with another of their Grand Plans that would eventually fall into place with everyone happy and content with the new European order. And in fact, they even promised that it would be a counterweight to the Americans. That's a combination of xenophobia, arrogance, propaganda and political nativity in itself.

    What happened in Norway was insane and we should never allow excuses for these ugly and inhumane actions. But perhaps lessons can be learned from this tragedy regarding those who feel they are intellectually superior to 'the masses', and go on to decide and dictate what's best for them. There will always be the law of equal and opposite reaction, as well as that of unintended consequence.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Ok, I found it. Norway is confusing. It is in Tyrifjordan Lake. Major brainfart on my part...
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    You all are wrong. The Island is 500 miles from Olso. Look at google maps satilite image of the Uytoa Island in Rossvetnet lake. It is the exact shape and distance from shore as the one they are showing on the news.
    Apologies for my rather snide remark regarding distance.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Okay I have read back almost 3 years of his rantings.

    He sounds like quite a few of the right wingers on these boards. Does this sound familiar?



    Islam has historically killed 300 million people
    Communism has historically killed 100 million people
    Nazism has historically killed 6-20 million people.

    Kinda chilling.

    He is against multiculturalism, dislikes the UN as he sees them as forcing multiculturalism on countries with its refugee policies. He blames Muslims and left wingers for everything and is a cultural conservative. He also rambles on how weak the "conservative" parties have become in Norway (including the party he was a member off) and Europe and that if they implemented the strict cultural conservative views he had, then people would flock to them.

    He believes his church is weak (he is a protestant, baptised at 15 by his own choice) and wants "back to basics".. he even hints on wanting Norway to become Roman Catholic again...

    He also mentions his admiration of Lou Dobbs for standing up to the political correct mass media over illegal immigration in the US.

    Also he left the party because he thought they were too political correct and weak on cultural and immigration policies... which is impressive considering their official policies.

    There is much more but would take a lot of time to jot down.
    Why are these views "chilling"? Many people share them.

    But a belief they obviously don't share is the murdering of innocent people.

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