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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Because he was a former member of "Fremskritspartiet" and the youth part of said party.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_Party_(Norway)

    based on

    - Som å ha møtt Hitler før andre verdenskrig - VG Nett om Terrorangrepet 22. juli

    He left the party in 2007... maybe because they were not right wing enough... we shall see sooner or later I guess.
    The links are unavailable and in Norwegian.

    What is "not right wing enough"?

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Giffords. Did we not learn anything from that episode?

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The links are unavailable and in Norwegian.
    Since when is Wikipedia unavailable where you are? Dont tell me you lived in a censored world?

    Edit: blame the board software.. for some reason it moved "[/url]" into the middle of the url text. But all you had to do was click on link "did you mean"...

    And yes it is in Norwegian, so what.. ever heard of google translate? The original story was only posted 2 hours ago, so it takes time for it to be spread to the English speaking world.

    What is "not right wing enough"?
    Good question.. I suspect it has something to do with his issues with the parties immigration policies.. if it was because he thought they were too strict or not strict enough, well time will tell.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

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    Since when is Wikipedia unavailable where you are? Dont tell me you lived in a censored world?
    No problem. Was able to track it down. It seems the Progress Party is in line with the thinking of many Europeans. It's philosophies are not all that uncommon in Europe and are being opposed by the "leftwingers", whose visions for Europe's future appear to be quite different.
    And yes it is in Norwegian, so what.. ever heard of google translate? The original story was only posted 2 hours ago, so it takes time for it to be spread to the English speaking world.
    Yes, I'm familiar with Google translate, as well as its unreliability.


    Good question.. I suspect it has something to do with his issues with the parties immigration policies.. if it was because he thought they were too strict or not strict enough, well time will tell.
    The blog containing his views has been posted.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    [QUOTE=Grant;1059678099]

    No problem. Was able to track it down. It seems the Progress Party is in line with the thinking of many Europeans. It's philosophies are not all that uncommon in Europe and are being opposed by the "leftwingers", whose visions for Europe's future appear to be quite different.
    It is the far right of European politics based on xenophobia and anti-immigration feelings.

    The blog containing his views has been posted.
    Yea and the NYT posted that it was Islamists claiming responsibility.... just saying. I am reading the comments over the next few hours in the original version. But from what I have read already.... he is a right winger on the extreme right. He rambles on about political correctness and Marxists. He dislikes the UN and multiculturalism... So far all classic right wing policies.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post

    It is the far right of European politics based on xenophobia and anti-immigration feelings.



    Yea and the NYT posted that it was Islamists claiming responsibility.... just saying. I am reading the comments over the next few hours in the original version. But from what I have read already.... he is a right winger on the extreme right. He rambles on about political correctness and Marxists. He dislikes the UN and multiculturalism... So far all classic right wing policies.
    The guy who did this is in fact a right-winger. (Norway: 'At least 87' killed in terror attacks - Telegraph) ]

    (Google Translate)

    (Suspect in deadly Norway attacks charged - World news - Europe - msnbc.com)
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    I'm just curious as to how you came to your conclusion? The first link doesn't state anything about his beliefs that I saw. The last one had this.

    There are signs the local farmer, 32, may have had right-wing, Christian fundamentalist views

    Is this not what the media did with the Giffords episode but then had to wipe the egg from their faces? The article states *may*, you state *fact*.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Okay I have read back almost 3 years of his rantings.

    He sounds like quite a few of the right wingers on these boards. Does this sound familiar?

    Islam(isme) har historisk ført til 300 millioner dødsfall
    Kommunisme har historisk ført til 100 millioner dødsfall
    Nazisme har historisk ført til 6-20 millioner dødsfall
    Islam has historically killed 300 million people
    Communism has historically killed 100 million people
    Nazism has historically killed 6-20 million people.

    Kinda chilling.

    He is against multiculturalism, dislikes the UN as he sees them as forcing multiculturalism on countries with its refugee policies. He blames Muslims and left wingers for everything and is a cultural conservative. He also rambles on how weak the "conservative" parties have become in Norway (including the party he was a member off) and Europe and that if they implemented the strict cultural conservative views he had, then people would flock to them.

    He believes his church is weak (he is a protestant, baptised at 15 by his own choice) and wants "back to basics".. he even hints on wanting Norway to become Roman Catholic again...

    He also mentions his admiration of Lou Dobbs for standing up to the political correct mass media over illegal immigration in the US.

    Also he left the party because he thought they were too political correct and weak on cultural and immigration policies... which is impressive considering their official policies.

    There is much more but would take a lot of time to jot down.
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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Pete was right in the beginning. He said it could have been a right winger, and he mentioned the right wing over there makes the American GOP look like pussies. So now I am a little concerned. It's frightening that Pete was right, and I am wondering what the heck is wrong with the right wing over there. What does their right wing do exactly? What are their goals? Is this going to happen more often?

    When I lived in Germany the NPD Party was basically the neo nazi party and filled with hate, but it wasn't that strong. The most I saw them do was try to have nazi rallies march in the streets, but people would quickly counter protest them and they were outnumbered. The right wing in Germany doesn't seem bad at all compared to this.

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    Re: Explosions In Norway

    Not sure if this was updated already (didn't look through more than a few pages back), but just heard on the radio now that the number of deaths is currently 92. RIP.
    ...we honor leaders for what they achieve, but we often prefer to close our eyes to the way they achieve it...

    In the real world, politics is compromise and democracy is politics. Anyone who would be a statesman has to be a successful politician first. Also, a leader has to deal with people and nations as they are, not as they should be. As a result, the qualities required for leadership are not necessary those that we would want our children to emulate - unless we wanted them to be leaders.

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