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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    I really doubt the cost of contraception can hold a candle to the cost of unwanted pregnancy. Wanna do something about single parents on welfare, abortion, and the maternity care you're paying for offered to these women who are getting pregnant when they really can't afford to be? This is your answer.

    This is awesome. Complaining that it's not free and therefore we shouldn't do it while simultaneously complaining about abortion and welfare mothers, is a bit like complaining about the cost of a police force in your city and therefore we should abolish them while simultaneously complaining that businesses don't want to be in your town and the economy sucks. Well, duh.

    I'm lucky enough to live in a state where we have the money to run programs like this that are very available to women, but I have lived in states where that is not the case. Guess what? Their unintended pregnancy rate is much higher.

    I don't claim to speak for all Minnesotans, but if it makes you feel better, I'd be happy to opt out and save us some money. We're already running a pretty good program here. Send my money to San Antonio, Texas, my best wishes to the women in your town, and my thanks Miss Selebius.
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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So?

    Neither is getting pregnant.
    And I would never claim it was like the article has done here.

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    I really doubt the cost of contraception can hold a candle to the cost of unwanted pregnancy.
    Not the point. The simple point is it's erroneous to say they are "free".

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Not the point. The simple point is it's erroneous to say they are "free".

    Hmm I wonder why Fox news put it that way?

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmm I wonder why Fox news put it that way?
    Laziness?..

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    "Free"? Really? Just mandate it and it's "Free"? Is it any wonder we're so far in debt we can't begin to see straight?

    Wow, I mean, just ****ing wow.
    The government are a bunch of overpaid bureaucratic assholes who use government funds to take vacations and fund private jets, not to mention throwing money around like confetti at completely idiotic things, and you are outraged by THIS? Seriously?

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Laziness?..

    Or to get people like Mr. V riled up?

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Unwanted pregnancies and divorce drive poverty rates. This is pretty meh. But, its not free, thats a given.

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Unwanted pregnancies and divorce drive poverty rates. This is pretty meh. But, its not free, thats a given.

    Maybe cost effective?


    Maybe cheaper than FREE, because contraceptives save money in avoiding the costs of unintended pregnancies, like Casey Athony. How much did Caylee end up costing?


    "An analysis of the economic benefits of adolescent contraceptive use utilizes information from a national private payer database and from the California Medicaid program to compare private- and public-sector costs and savings. The study estimates the costs of acquiring and using 11 contraceptive methods appropriate for adolescents, treating associated side effects, providing medical care related to an unintended pregnancy during method use and treating sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) and compares them with the costs of using no method. The average annual cost per adolescent at risk of unintended pregnancy who uses no method is $1,267 ($1,079 for unintended pregnancy and $188 for STDs) in the private sector and $677 ($541 for unintended pregnancy and $137 for STDs) in the public sector under the most conservative assumptions. At one year of use, private-sector savings from adolescent contraceptive use range from $308 for the implant to $946 for the male condom; public-sector savings rise from $60 for the implant to $525 for the male condom. Both the use of male condoms with another method and the advance provision of backup emergency contraceptive pills provide additional savings.

    Six previous studies have demonstrated that contraceptive use saves substantial health care dollars in both private and public settings in the US. The present study was the first to focus on the costs and savings of contraceptive use among US adolescent women 15-19 years of age. Through use of data from a national third-party private payer database and from the California Medicaid program"





    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9429869

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MistressNomad View Post
    Wanna do something about single parents on welfare, abortion, and the maternity care you're paying for offered to these women who are getting pregnant when they really can't afford to be? This is your answer.

    This is awesome.
    Yes, cutting down on the number of future liberals is awesome indeed

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