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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's misleading in ways more than that.

    Birth control won't be "free." Rather, health insurance companies will be required to provide it to all women who purchase health insurance. So it will be a first tier service of health insurance providers. Women will pay for it as a part of their health insurance premium rather than having to provide a co-pay.

    Not sure if that has been corrected or not.
    Like I said...

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    Sidenote: It must be re-emphasized, the recommendation to distribute free contraceptives through health insurance is NOT in the PPAC nor did it originate with the federal government (Obama Administration). It came from the Institute of Medicine, and there's no guarantee that insurance companies will adopt such a measure. Please, try to keep that in mind throughout the course of this debate topic.

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    Free? It shouldn't be free. It should be treated like any other medication. If you can afford it, pay for it yourself. Insurance companies should charge a co-pay like they do any other medication. Medicaid should distribute it like they do any other medication. This idea is like the massive drug bill that passed when George Bush was in office. People need to pay based on their ability to pay. No more massive government handouts.
    Then what do you suggest doing when they can't afford to feed all the babies and properly care for these children? Just let them starve to death?

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Which is about to add millions to government healthcare.

    Or did you miss that?
    Would you rather see higher abortion rates?

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Then what do you suggest doing when they can't afford to feed all the babies and properly care for these children? Just let them starve to death?
    That's ultimately right wing ideology. When applied to everyone else, they support social darwinism.
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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by BamaBrat View Post
    Oh I definitely agree with that. Im just sayin... even if you dont have insurance at all, birth control is available and you can get it for pretty much free or very cheap. Planned parenthood still does it on a sliding scale according to what a persons income is.
    PP is not a pharmacy. All they do is write scripts, but you can get condoms for free there... other than that, no bc is free at PP. I was in college, no income, and I still had to pay for it.

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    I touched on this earlier but I'm going to go over this again.

    We are talking about people with insurance. I do not know of any insurance policy that doesn't cover B.C. Anyone have any info where there are any? How many?
    If you have insurance, you have a job. Are there people who really can not afford the $10-$20 co-pay that some do charge?

    I have no problem with the idea that in theory this might help but that's theory. In reality is this a solution looking for a problem?

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I touched on this earlier but I'm going to go over this again.

    We are talking about people with insurance. I do not know of any insurance policy that doesn't cover B.C. Anyone have any info where there are any? How many?
    If you have insurance, you have a job. Are there people who really can not afford the $10-$20 co-pay that some do charge?

    I have no problem with the idea that in theory this might help but that's theory. In reality is this a solution looking for a problem?
    Popular support should almost never be a reason to implement policy.
    So many correlation/causation fallacies and giant leaps of logic.
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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    That's ultimately right wing ideology. When applied to everyone else, they support social darwinism.
    Social Darwinism is a multi branched belief, that originated with the progressives.
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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I do not consider birth control as health care. If you are having sex while using contraception you are in it for the enjoyment only. So "forcing health insurance to cover safe entertainment" would be a more accurate wording. Whats next? Will we force agencies to pay for bicycle helmets and the like?

    If pregnancies spontaneously occurred you could have an argument but since it is a direct result of a persons actions, I do not feel it is anyone elses responsibility to insure you have no unwanted children. I have never caused a pregnancy. Why? because I use proper protection or do not have sex. It is really very elementary.
    BC can also be used to treat many other health issues women have, and many such health conditions are extremely common like endometriosis. You're not my doctor, and my doctor and me will make such decisions. You can stay out of my uterus and health care options, thanks.

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    Re: Contraceptive Recommendation Creates New Controversy for Health Care Law

    There's really no leaps in logic. I have insurance, and yet the deductibles and co pays are rather steep. If free birth control (assuming it's convenient and effective) were offered "free" to any woman who needed them, it follows that unwanted births would decrease. The question: is the cost of free birth control less than the total costs of unwanted births. I think the answer is obvious to most people.
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