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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    The liberals will never, ever support this.
    Why?
    The massive reduction in government handouts will greatly reduce their voter base.

    If we do not spend a penny more per year than in FY2009 (which we all know will never happen), over the next 10 years we will spend:
    >$35.18T total
    >$22.88T on entitlements
    Cut $3T from entitlements? Not enough.

    I do not understand why some people continue to refuse to accept the fact that out-of-control entitlement spending, 65% of all federal outlays, is the root cause of our deficits -- the INCREASE alone in entitlement spending from FY2008 to FY2009- just the INCREASE - was $500B.

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    The liberals will never, ever support this.
    Why?
    The massive reduction in government handouts will greatly reduce their voter base.

    If we do not spend a penny more per year than in FY2009 (which we all know will never happen), over the next 10 years we will spend:
    >$35.18T total
    >$22.88T on entitlements
    Cut $3T from entitlements? Not enough.

    I do not understand why some people continue to refuse to accept the fact that out-of-control entitlement spending, 65% of all federal outlays, is the root cause of our deficits -- the INCREASE alone in entitlement spending from FY2008 to FY2009- just the INCREASE - was $500B.
    I'm concerned that some will allow these programs to stay as they are until it is too late to save them or too late to save the nation. Personally, I would like to see an orderly transition to a more secure approach for the future, but the liberals will never agree with my approach, so.....

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I'm concerned that some will allow these programs to stay as they are until it is too late to save them or too late to save the nation. Personally, I would like to see an orderly transition to a more secure approach for the future, but the liberals will never agree with my approach, so.....
    At this point in time and space, the only way to curb the deficits is to simply not allow the Federal government to borrow any more money.
    Over the long term, it is irresponsible to follow any other course of action.

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    At this point in time and space, the only way to curb the deficits is to simply not allow the Federal government to borrow any more money.
    Over the long term, it is irresponsible to follow any other course of action.
    We are in total agreement.

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    I am stunned that the Dems here are not dancing up and down with joy over Senator Coburn's proposal. After all, what we have heard here day after day, after day, is that what needs to happen is that taxes should be raised and the Bush tax cuts for the "wealthy" should be ended. Well, Coburn's proposal does both. Where is the joy Dems?

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I am stunned that the Dems here are not dancing up and down with joy over Senator Coburn's proposal. After all, what we have heard here day after day, after day, is that what needs to happen is that taxes should be raised and the Bush tax cuts for the "wealthy" should be ended. Well, Coburn's proposal does both. Where is the joy Dems?
    The liberals will never, ever support this.
    Why?
    The massive reduction in government handouts will greatly reduce their voter base.

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    The liberals will never, ever support this.
    Why?
    The massive reduction in government handouts will greatly reduce their voter base.
    Surely, they are not being disingenuous. They said they wanted to end the tax cut for the "wealthy" and this has been their signuature song for months or years now. Now, a conservative comes along and proposes to do away with those tax cuts and what do I see here? Silence! Total silence.

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Surely, they are not being disingenuous. They said they wanted to end the tax cut for the "wealthy" and this has been their signuature song for months or years now. Now, a conservative comes along and proposes to do away with those tax cuts and what do I see here? Silence! Total silence.
    Pzkfw, I'm beginning to believe that the non-conservatives here are being disingenuous about doing away with the "evil" Bush tax cuts. Here is a proposal to eliminate them and, after more than 24 hours, not one non-conservative has said they are pleased that this proposal does exactly that. Truly sad, I tell you, truly sad. And, it may be very telling. *sigh*

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    Hey, I'm liberal and this is a good plan. It doesn't axe one program or another. The Ryan plan, although it was the first plan, axed medicare and didn't touch social security. This plan addresses everything, looks pretty good. We definitely need to balance the budget and address serious steps in getting there. This thread hasn't got much replies though, I don't know what most people think of the Coburn plan.

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    Re: $9 Trillion Deficit Reduction Plan - Back in Black

    this is worth another thread but - the Ryan plan does not "axe" Medicare. it saves Medicare. current law "axes" Medicare.

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