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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    I say let'em get married. They have the right to be just as miserable as straights.

    But, when their spouse takes the kids, most of their ****, half their social security, puts them on the street, working three jobs to pay the child support and alimony, or they get tossed in the joint for not paying alimony; don't come cryin' about being gay.
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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I say let'em get married. They have the right to be just as miserable as straights.

    But, when their spouse takes the kids, most of their ****, half their social security, puts them on the street, working three jobs to pay the child support and alimony, or they get tossed in the joint for not paying alimony; don't come cryin' about being gay.
    Sounds fair to me.

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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I say let'em get married. They have the right to be just as miserable as straights.

    But, when their spouse takes the kids, most of their ****, half their social security, puts them on the street, working three jobs to pay the child support and alimony, or they get tossed in the joint for not paying alimony; don't come cryin' about being gay.
    I don't know why you would think people would do that.
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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Hasn't recent federal court rulings pretty much made DOMA obsolete, if not downright unconstitutional? Under what authority can the government refuse to extend rights equally to gays and straights alike?
    Well - I support the repeal, yet I find it interesting that Obama's calling for it.

    Regardless - a big issue is whether marrige is a right or whether it's just a social norm or tradition rather than a right.
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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Sounds fair to me.
    I'm all for it, but I know just as well that, "but...but...but...I'm gay", is going to come into it, somewhere, somehow.

    I honestly believe that if gays truly grasped how ****ed up a divorce can get, they wouldn't be pushing to legalize gay marriage.

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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't know why you would think people would do that.
    Human nature, I reckon.

    Tell a gay person that he/she can't see her kids--non-biological kids at that--except under surpervison, has to pay out half of his/her monthly salary for child and spousal support--again child support for non-biological kids. Cough up half of that retirement and/or social security, pay the note on a house that he/she isn't allowed, by court order, to set foot in, has a restraining order, or has to go to jail, because of delinquint child/spousal support and watch him/her start crapping excuses why that isn't fair and you can bet your butt that, "but...but...but...I'm gay", is going to be the first one thrown out there.

    More than likely, "It was just a phase! I'm not gay, anymore!".

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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm all for it, but I know just as well that, "but...but...but...I'm gay", is going to come into it, somewhere, somehow.

    I honestly believe that if gays truly grasped how ****ed up a divorce can get, they wouldn't be pushing to legalize gay marriage.

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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well aren't you just a ray of sunshine
    I always am. It's just hard for most Libbos to see it.

    Are you married and/or been divorced?

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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I always am. It's just hard for most Libbos to see it.

    Are you married and/or been divorced?

    Nope, lived with a couple of gals though. The last one still has my TVs and recently wrecked the Tahoe I bought her.

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    Re: Obama, in stand for gay rights, calls for repeal of DOMA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Human nature, I reckon.

    Tell a gay person that he/she can't see her kids--non-biological kids at that--except under surpervison, has to pay out half of his/her monthly salary for child and spousal support--again child support for non-biological kids. Cough up half of that retirement and/or social security, pay the note on a house that he/she isn't allowed, by court order, to set foot in, has a restraining order, or has to go to jail, because of delinquint child/spousal support and watch him/her start crapping excuses why that isn't fair and you can bet your butt that, "but...but...but...I'm gay", is going to be the first one thrown out there.

    More than likely, "It was just a phase! I'm not gay, anymore!".
    But that makes no sense

    Seriously, that is better then having no legal standard for a long term relationship that has ended with those same circumstances.

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