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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Fortunately, there is still time for the Republicans to just walk away. They passed a bill in the House. Now it is the democratically-controlled Senate's turn. And the one term Marxist president Obama has yet to offer any real plan. Republicans should tell him they will return to discuss his plan, once he actually has one.

    And if nothing happens then the government will be forced to live on what it already compels us to pay.
    Is it not the House's job to create actual plans? The president can set the agenda and even offer some specific suggestions, but doesn't the responsibly fall on the House to create the actual plan?
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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Is it not the House's job to create actual plans? The president can set the agenda and even offer some specific suggestions, but doesn't the responsibly fall on the House to create the actual plan?
    No. The president can submit a budget to congress. Bills involving budgets originate in he House. They have passed budgets already.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Obama isn't the only one who spent recklessly. Yes, his two and half years are an embarrassment but it didn't get this bad in only 2 1/2 years.
    Absolutely, but just how long are we supposed to give Obama a pass based on what the prior administration, and congress spent? Oh, and one more thing on that, Bush spent roughly $1.4 Billion per day in deficit spending, 2 years of that with a Pelosi congress, Obama since taking office, is spending $4.3 Billion per day. Now you tell me, when does Obama and his supporters take responsibility for that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor
    Reckless spending aside, I don't know that this will even cover the interest. This may reduce the deficit, but "debt reduction" it most certainly is not.
    Agreed. The revelations coming out are that this is more and more just games being played. Kicking the can AGAIN.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. The president can submit a budget to congress. Bills involving budgets originate in he House. They have passed budgets already.
    Please give a link then to the FY2010 budget. And keep in mind that CR's are NOT a budget.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Please give a link then to the FY2010 budget. And keep in mind that CR's are NOT a budget.

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    No bill becomes a law until both houses of Congress pass it and reconcile it. The House has done its part. Now it is up to the democratically-controlled Senate. Then on to the one term Marxist president Obama's autopen.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What it does challenge and refute is the non stop rhetoric that Republicans have no plan, are the party of "NO"... etc.etc.etc..... It also forces Democrats into a position of having to now do something.
    Yes, the plan is to pass stuff designed to fail in the senate so you can claim you did stuff.
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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, the plan is to pass stuff designed to fail in the senate so you can claim you did stuff.
    Is it your position that Republicans are required to cave in to Democrats?

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, the plan is to pass stuff designed to fail in the senate so you can claim you did stuff.
    The plan is to pass "stuff" that makes sense and will solve the situation that nObama put the nation in, but the problem is that nObama and the democrats are not willing to solve the problem since they are used to spend, spend, spend, spend, they are spendcoholics, like drug users that can't stop. Reps. are trying to FINALLY pass the budget that Dems. should have done 2 years ago, instead.. they went on a spending spree and passed policies that are hurting the country.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes, the plan is to pass stuff designed to fail in the senate so you can claim you did stuff.
    That's politics...
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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Fortunately, there is still time for the Republicans to just walk away. They passed a bill in the House. Now it is the democratically-controlled Senate's turn. And the one term Marxist president Obama has yet to offer any real plan. Republicans should tell him they will return to discuss his plan, once he actually has one.

    And if nothing happens then the government will be forced to live on what it already compels us to pay.
    Fortunately, the financial sector, who would be the biggest losers in a government default, are not going to allow their lackeys, the GOP, to follow through with a default.
    So I have no worries the about the government defaulting on its obligations.
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