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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are you objecting to tax increases? Or are you claiming there aren't going to be any?
    No, I am objecting to the $1.5 trillion in tax cuts by cutting government programs for our seniors.

    "The plan includes $1.5 trillion in tax cuts, managed by spending caps and cuts to government programs."
    Gang Of Six Unveils Debt-Reduction Plan [UPDATED]

    And this with no significant cuts in the most wasteful spending, the military and multiple optional wars.

    There is no way I can support this.
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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I am objecting to the $1.5 trillion in tax cuts by cutting government programs for our seniors.

    "The plan includes $1.5 trillion in tax cuts, managed by spending caps and cuts to government programs."
    Gang Of Six Unveils Debt-Reduction Plan [UPDATED]

    And this with no significant cuts in the most wasteful spending, the military and multiple optional wars.

    There is no way I can support this.
    The Gang's plan has not been written in legislative language as of yet, has it? What programs for seniors will it cut?

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    The Gang's plan has not been written in legislative language as of yet, has it? What programs for seniors will it cut?
    "The Gang's revised plan proposes deep cuts in Medicare and other health spending"

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDan View Post
    The Gang's plan has not been written in legislative language as of yet, has it? What programs for seniors will it cut?
    it reduces the unsustainable pace of growth in Medicare, thereby keeping that program from utter collapse for a few more years. supposedly.

    thats a "deep cut" for those who wish not to recognize fiscal reality.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    But, but! They're the party of NO! They can't possibly have been proposing item after item after item from measures to deal with the budget to measures to deal with the debt cieling and on and on.

    They're the party of NO! If they actually were proposing things and those thing weren't happening that wouldn't make sense because that'd mean the democrats were the ones saying no and we all know that the party of no is republicans. I mean, Democrats have told us that so it must be true.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    But, but! They're the party of NO! They can't possibly have been proposing item after item after item from measures to deal with the budget to measures to deal with the debt cieling and on and on.

    They're the party of NO! If they actually were proposing things and those thing weren't happening that wouldn't make sense because that'd mean the democrats were the ones saying no and we all know that the party of no is republicans. I mean, Democrats have told us that so it must be true.
    Passing stuff designed so it can never become law, simply to claim you are passing stuff, does not change the fact that republicans refused to even be part of the process the last two years except to get in the way.
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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Passing stuff designed so it can never become law, simply to claim you are passing stuff, does not change the fact that republicans refused to even be part of the process the last two years except to get in the way.
    What it does challenge and refute is the non stop rhetoric that Republicans have no plan, are the party of "NO"... etc.etc.etc..... It also forces Democrats into a position of having to now do something.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I am objecting to the $1.5 trillion in tax cuts by cutting government programs for our seniors.
    . . .
    There is no way I can support this.
    Fortunately, there is still time for the Republicans to just walk away. They passed a bill in the House. Now it is the democratically-controlled Senate's turn. And the one term Marxist president Obama has yet to offer any real plan. Republicans should tell him they will return to discuss his plan, once he actually has one.

    And if nothing happens then the government will be forced to live on what it already compels us to pay.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Basically, the US needs to add more debt because not doing so ends in collapse.
    Even more basically, the US government needs to stop spending money it does not have. It is pretty simple really.

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    Re: 'Gang of Six' revives hope for big deal in stalled debt-ceiling talks

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Republican leadership will not allow this to advance especially in the House. they have already made a decision that their highest priority is making sure they win back the White House and Senate in 2012 and they view the best way to do that is to collapse the economy and blame Obama for it.
    I like it. The one term Marxist president Obama has massively grown the federal government. Now he gets to shrink it. And in the end we get our country back. Land of the Free. Home of the Brave. Perfect.

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