Scandal likely to bring down Murdoch empire: Brown advisor

[stelz]

Rupert Murdoch and his son are being called up for questioning by M.P.'s. The UK is about to boot out the biggest American corporate/war propaganda machine in history. The first whistleblower was found dead yesterday. The two highest police officers in the UK have resigned due to Murdoch's corporate payoffs.

Murdochs to face questions in UK parliament | WORLD News

"One of Rupert's most trusted executives Les Hinton has resigned over the scandal, as has former News of the World editor and News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks, who faces police charges.

"He is 80. I think the chances of him passing on the business to his son James are extremely unlikely. We're hearing almost daily shareholders in News Corporation asking for change at the top and that means change of the Murdoch family," said Sinclair."

 

[jamesrage]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Rupert Murdoch and his son are being called up for questioning by M.P.'s. The UK is about to boot out the biggest American corporate/war propaganda machine in history. The first whistleblower was found dead yesterday. The two highest police officers in the UK have resigned due to Murdoch's corporate payoffs.

Murdochs to face questions in UK parliament | WORLD News

"One of Rupert's most trusted executives Les Hinton has resigned over the scandal, as has former News of the World editor and News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks, who faces police charges.

"He is 80. I think the chances of him passing on the business to his son James are extremely unlikely. We're hearing almost daily shareholders in News Corporation asking for change at the top and that means change of the Murdoch family," said Sinclair."

Has it occurred any of you libs salivating over this that if the worst came to happen then FOX news (a tv station you most likely have never ever watched) would be just sold to someone else? I know that a lo of libs fail to understand the concept that if something makes money you keep it or buy it and if it doesn't make money you get rid of it.

 

[Polotick]

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If this gets messy enough the UK could ban them from the media, like Canada did. All of this is going to be pretty interesting to watch unfold.

 

[Erod]

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Murdoch was just attacked.

Probably someone around here. LOL

 

[PeteEU]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Murdoch was just attacked.

Probably someone around here. LOL

Dunno if I should be outraged or laugh my ass off ... he was attacked with a plate of shaving cream.

 

[Deuce]

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Dunno if I should be outraged or laugh my ass off ... he was attacked with a plate of shaving cream.

Outrageous!







Murdoch didn't need a shave at all!

 

[PeteEU]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Has it occurred any of you libs salivating over this that if the worst came to happen then FOX news (a tv station you most likely have never ever watched) would be just sold to someone else?

Unless the board wants to get out of the news business then it wont be sold. Murdoch for one will not sell any newspaper/TV station that can give him influence over politics. Had it been the Sun and not News of the World who was involved in this scandal, then it would not have been closed that is for sure.

But maybe the Koch brothers might skip a level of management and buy Fox News from Murdoch....

I know that a lo of libs fail to understand the concept that if something makes money you keep it or buy it and if it doesn't make money you get rid of it.

Fox News might make a profit, but it is minimal in the NewsCorp empire. It is the non news areas that are the profitable parts of the company and that is why this scandal is big... Murdoch was about to complete the BSkyB deal, a deal that would have given him a 1 billion pound profit alone from BSkyB.. considering NewsCorps last annual profit was under 5 billion dollars, then well.

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Has it occurred any of you libs salivating over this that if the worst came to happen then FOX news (a tv station you most likely have never ever watched) would be just sold to someone else? I know that a lo of libs fail to understand the concept that if something makes money you keep it or buy it and if it doesn't make money you get rid of it.

Murdoch however is generally fairly ideological and if Fox was sold to a large multinational company it would be more interested in profits then pushing certain ideologies

 

[Dr_Patrick]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Has it occurred any of you libs salivating over this that if the worst came to happen then FOX news (a tv station you most likely have never ever watched) would be just sold to someone else? I know that a lo of libs fail to understand the concept that if something makes money you keep it or buy it and if it doesn't make money you get rid of it.

I don't know. To me this goes beyond libs vs. cons. I know it's hard for some people to see past that line of thinking, but I honestly think everyone should be outraged over this issue. It doesn't matter that it's Rupert Murdoch. The fact that such a major media outlet could be responsible for such unscrupulous acts should piss everyone off, regardless of their party affiliation.

 

[jamesrage]

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I don't know. To me this goes beyond libs vs. cons.

Not this thread,lust look at the original thread title.

Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

I know it's hard for some people to see past that line of thinking, but I honestly think everyone should be outraged over this issue. It doesn't matter that it's Rupert Murdoch. The fact that such a major media outlet could be responsible for such unscrupulous acts should piss everyone off, regardless of their party affiliation.

I agree with that. Private individuals should be banned form invading your privacy and should be thrown in prison for it.

 

[Manc Skipper]

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...

Private individuals should be banned form invading your privacy and should be thrown in prison for it.

When an editor routinely asks for the phone transcripts alongside a reporter's copy to support a major story, would that suggest to you that perhaps it's more than simply "private individuals"?

When James Murdoch signed the cheques to senior policemen for services rendered, would such bribery break American corporate law?

 

[jamesrage]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

When an editor routinely asks for the phone transcripts alongside a reporter's copy to support a major story, would that suggest to you that perhaps it's more than simply "private individuals"?

When James Murdoch signed the cheques to senior policemen for services rendered, would such bribery break American corporate law?

If he did do those things he is accused of then he should rot in prison as well as the individuals who took the bribes and the reporters responsible.

 

[sangha]

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Has it occurred any of you libs salivating over this that if the worst came to happen then FOX news (a tv station you most likely have never ever watched) would be just sold to someone else? I know that a lo of libs fail to understand the concept that if something makes money you keep it or buy it and if it doesn't make money you get rid of it.

Fox has holdings that require approval from the FCC, etc. If these approvals are witheld due to these scandals, then the value drops because it won't be able to make as much money. In addition, advertisers are pulling their ads, which results in reduced profits for them, which makes them a less attractive target for a takeover. If these things keep happening, the stock price can go into a free fall, and lead Fox into bankruptcy.

And something the wingnuts dont understand is that a lib can come along and buy up the remaining pieces just as easily as a rightwinger can

 

[sangha]

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I don't know. To me this goes beyond libs vs. cons. I know it's hard for some people to see past that line of thinking, but I honestly think everyone should be outraged over this issue. It doesn't matter that it's Rupert Murdoch. The fact that such a major media outlet could be responsible for such unscrupulous acts should piss everyone off, regardless of their party affiliation.

Some people believe It's OK If You're A Rightwinger

 

[sangha]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Not this thread,lust look at the original thread title.

Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)



I agree with that. Private individuals should be banned form invading your privacy and should be thrown in prison for it.

Yes, because it's "partisan" to want criminals to pay for their crimes. :roll:

 

[Paschendale]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

My glee at the downfall of Murdoch comes not from his political bias, but from his underhanded tactics. He's allowed to have a view, and to promote it. But he employs literally textbook examples of immoral techniques to push his agenda. That's what's wrong with him, and with Fox.

 

[Grant]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

I don't know. To me this goes beyond libs vs. cons. I know it's hard for some people to see past that line of thinking, but I honestly think everyone should be outraged over this issue. It doesn't matter that it's Rupert Murdoch. The fact that such a major media outlet could be responsible for such unscrupulous acts should piss everyone off, regardless of their party affiliation.

The British media, or the great majority of it, was well known to be crap. and that includes the BBC, the Guardian, and all the tabloids. Solid British journalism died a few decades ago. which is largely why the British people, among the English speaking people, remain largely uninformed, or in error, about the rest of the world. And yet, paradoxically, they feel they're quite on top of it all.

It is to be hoped that some good comes out of this, that out of every crisis there is an opportunity for improvment.

 

[jamesrage]

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Yes, because it's "partisan" to want criminals to pay for their crimes. :roll:

I never said it was partisan to want criminals to pay for their crimes.

 

[sangha]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

I never said it was partisan to want criminals to pay for their crimes.

No, you said "libs" wanted Fox to fail because they were being partisan, The truth is we want them to fail because they are criminals.

 

[jamesrage]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

No, you said "libs" wanted Fox to fail because they were being partisan, The truth is we want them to fail because they are criminals.

Whether or not the owner is an alleged criminal is irrelevant to liberals hatred of fox news.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

The rest of us are talking about the Murdoch empire, of which Faux news is only a part.

 

[Middleground]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

If this gets messy enough the UK could ban them from the media, like Canada did. All of this is going to be pretty interesting to watch unfold.

Canada did not ban them. Not sure where you got your info, but you are wrong. We not only have FoxNews, but we also have a Canadian version as well (Sun Media).

 

[PeteEU]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

Canada did not ban them. Not sure where you got your info, but you are wrong. We not only have FoxNews, but we also have a Canadian version as well (Sun Media).

I think he was thinking of when a cable service kicked of Fox News from their network because they did not see any value in them or something like that.

Or he could be thinking about how Canada declined to give Fox News permission to start up their own Canadian version.

It is hard to actually see which the right are pissed about as the miss-information campaign has been quite considerable... google "Fox News banned in Canada" and you will see a lot of right wing wingnut webpages.

 

[Grant]

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No, you said "libs" wanted Fox to fail because they were being partisan, The truth is we want them to fail because they are criminals.

This is a tactic of the sort of British journalism under discussion. Make charges but offer no evidence.

 

[Grant]

Re: Sayonara, FOX "News" (let's hope)

I think he was thinking of when a cable service kicked of Fox News from their network because they did not see any value in them or something like that.

Or he could be thinking about how Canada declined to give Fox News permission to start up their own Canadian version.

It is hard to actually see which the right are pissed about as the miss-information campaign has been quite considerable... google "Fox News banned in Canada" and you will see a lot of right wing wingnut webpages.

Again the Left has to guess at the news, just as the British media have been doing.

It's easy enough to ask around or check with reliable sources but "something like that" has proven to be good enough.

This post is all amateur guesswork, and a typical example of how the British media works.

This is a typical defense.

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