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    Borders to Shut Down

    Borders Group Inc. said it would liquidate after the second-largest U.S. bookstore chain failed to receive any offers to save it.
    Borders, which employs about 10,700 people, scrapped a bankruptcy-court auction scheduled for Tuesday amid the dearth of bids. It said it would ask a judge Thursday to approve a sale to liquidators led by Hilco Merchant Resources and Gordon Brothers Group.
    Borders to Shut Down - WSJ.com

    As an avid reader and book buyer, this makes me most sad.
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    Look at the bright side... this may be the reemergence of the small book store. If all the nincompoops go out and buy kindles to read books, the small book reseller will have an opportunity to get amounts of good quality hard back and used books. The superstores sort of took the intimacy out of books and those of us who love paper books may once again have an opportunity to go to a local book store and buy books without the superstore hubub.

    Barnes & Noble is probably the last brick and mortar super book reseller. Any other ones left?
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    I hope Ockham is right. I still hate to hear this as Borders is the only book store of any account around here.

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    Re: Borders to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Borders to Shut Down - WSJ.com

    As an avid reader and book buyer, this makes me most sad.
    I knew they were close to shutting the doors and about a half hour ago, my wife told me they had. I too am an avid book reader and I own every book and only a few are on the Nook. I prefer hardcover, but I'll take books the best way I can get them. I love Barnes and Noble and Amazon as I also purchase books that have not been in print for decades. In fact, my current reading is a book that was published in 1914 and is "The Journal of the Joint Committee of Fifteen On Reconstruction, 39th Congress, 1865-1867." I had just finished another one on the Fourteenth Amendment by Horace Flack that was written in about 1907. Just to show that I am not a total history nut, I did sandwich those two books with one of Vince Flynn's thrillers.

    Unfortunately, we did not have a Borders near us. Sort of reminds me of "You've Got Mail" movie. Well, in a big sort of way. LOL!

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    Re: Borders to Shut Down

    sorry to hear about the bad news for the employees.

    i still have a B&N within driving distance. i prefer traditional books, although i am warming to books on "tape" (or rather, mp3) that i can listen to more easily during my daily commute / nightly exercise.

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    Blame E-books. The Authors Guild, et al, saw this coming a decade ago, when otherwise unpublishable writers began flinging their crap on line to sell via the internet. To compete, successful writers had to offer their own works as E-books. The moment a cheap, portable, convenient E-book reader hit the market, the fate of nearly all bookstores was sealed. As a writer myself, it breaks my heart to say it but the day isn't far away when paper books will be relegated to musems and trash heaps. It's the end of an era.

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    Re: Borders to Shut Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Look at the bright side... this may be the reemergence of the small book store. If all the nincompoops go out and buy kindles to read books, the small book reseller will have an opportunity to get amounts of good quality hard back and used books. The superstores sort of took the intimacy out of books and those of us who love paper books may once again have an opportunity to go to a local book store and buy books without the superstore hubub.

    Barnes & Noble is probably the last brick and mortar super book reseller. Any other ones left?
    The superstores took the intimacy out of books? Really? At both Barnes & Noble and Borders, there were plenty of places to sit and read, none of the sellers cared when you picked out a book and finished half of the thing while sippin' on a mocha frap, and the selection was amazing. I remember having to shop at those small book dealers before the big superstores came along, and it sucked. First off, there was no place to sit and browse through a book that you were interested in. Not that it would have mattered if there were - the staff at those places were always on your jock if they saw you reading anything more than the back cover. Seriously, they'd walk by every few minutes asking, "Are you interested in that book?" "Are you ready to check out?" "Can I help you with your purchase?" "Hey, what do you say we buy that book together?"

    Secondly, those small stores were WAY overpriced. Back when I lived in Chapel Hill in the 90's, a Borders came into town and set up shop, prompting the small local bookstores to push this huge campaign about supporting the 'small, intimate bookstore' from the 'dangerous book giant'. It met with no success, partly because the staff at those places was so pushy, but mostly because you were paying more per book. In some cases, a lot more. And the selection sucked. If they didn't have it, they could order it, of course. You'd have to wait a week, though. Or you could waltz up to the 'dangerous book giant' and pick it up at that moment for a lot cheaper.

    Yeah, tough decision.

    Lastly, most of those places had really strict rules about food and beverage, and by "strict rules", I mean that you were told to g.t.f.o. if you had any. I suppose when you price your books so high that you need a second mortgage just to shop there, there is every reason to discourage folks from wandering in with a beverage. Not at the superstores. Not only do they have few rules governing food and beverages, they actually sell them there.

    The small book business model blew chunks long before the superstores shut them down, and with teh interwebz so prevalent nowadays, those stores aint gonna fare much better than the big daddies. Worse, actually. Seriously, why go out and buy a book at some crappy little bookstore when you chill out at home and either download it or order it on Amazon for much cheaper? If worst comes to worst, I think most folks would either do that, or drive up to a remaining Barnes & Noble.

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    For a second I thought you meant like...the country's borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    The superstores took the intimacy out of books? Really? At both Barnes & Noble and Borders, there were plenty of places to sit and read, none of the sellers cared when you picked out a book and finished half of the thing while sippin' on a mocha frap, and the selection was amazing. I remember having to shop at those small book dealers before the big superstores came along, and it sucked. First off, there was no place to sit and browse through a book that you were interested in. Not that it would have mattered if there were - the staff at those places were always on your jock if they saw you reading anything more than the back cover. Seriously, they'd walk by every few minutes asking, "Are you interested in that book?" "Are you ready to check out?" "Can I help you with your purchase?" "Hey, what do you say we buy that book together?"

    Secondly, those small stores were WAY overpriced. Back when I lived in Chapel Hill in the 90's, a Borders came into town and set up shop, prompting the small local bookstores to push this huge campaign about supporting the 'small, intimate bookstore' from the 'dangerous book giant'. It met with no success, partly because the staff at those places was so pushy, but mostly because you were paying more per book. In some cases, a lot more. And the selection sucked. If they didn't have it, they could order it, of course. You'd have to wait a week, though. Or you could waltz up to the 'dangerous book giant' and pick it up at that moment for a lot cheaper.

    Yeah, tough decision.

    Lastly, most of those places had really strict rules about food and beverage, and by "strict rules", I mean that you were told to g.t.f.o. if you had any. I suppose when you price your books so high that you need a second mortgage just to shop there, there is every reason to discourage folks from wandering in with a beverage. Not at the superstores. Not only do they have few rules governing food and beverages, they actually sell them there.

    The small book business model blew chunks long before the superstores shut them down, and with teh interwebz so prevalent nowadays, those stores aint gonna fare much better than the big daddies. Worse, actually. Seriously, why go out and buy a book at some crappy little bookstore when you chill out at home and either download it or order it on Amazon for much cheaper? If worst comes to worst, I think most folks would either do that, or drive up to a remaining Barnes & Noble.
    Don't judge all small bookstores on your crappy experiences. They're not all overprice, they don't all have small selections, and they don't all ignore you and never ask you what you're looking for. The internet's great for lots of things, but it can't reproduce the smell of paper and bindings of thousands of books in a small area. It also doesn't have the same soul - the big super stores sure were convenient, but they also had kids screaming, the coffee foamer noise, the nerds in the CD area blasting the latest vomit rock, and people blabing on their cell phones while dragging their pouty kids through the isles talking about their latest bahama get away while looking for the latest trashy romance novel. Give me a break. I'd rather wait for a book than get it right away - a little anticipation and something to look forward to rather than instant gratification. And the small bookstores can usually get books the large retailers cannot because the publishers no longer have stock and the circulation is long gone. 1st editions? Not likely in the super stores. They've got a lot of stuff no doubt if you like a lot of stuff. I don't. Barnes & Nobel is fine to get some newer books or looking for slightly older books in the discount pile. It's got little to no soul to it, little to no atmosphere. There's a place for them - don't get me wrong, but until you've experienced a quaint old bookstore that's got character, lots of quiet and an old leather recliner, there's absolutely no comparison.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeezy View Post
    For a second I thought you meant like...the country's borders.
    I wish.....

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