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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What an utter failure of an analogy. It's nothing like that at all.
    They are both examples of inappropriate bravado that resulted in more violence than would have occured otherwise.
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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I don't like "Hate crime" legislation as a general rule. A crime is a crime is a crime. However, here is a case that common sense says "Yeah, race mattered here". Sad really this requires "investigation"
    Yes, how sad that this is being investigated. They should just take the first group of blacks they see and string them up - no investigation, no trial.


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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Yes, how sad that this is being investigated. They should just take the first group of blacks they see and string them up - no investigation, no trial.
    Are you purposely being obtuse to the point being made or just felt like race baiting a cheap shot?
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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    What makes this story different from countless others like it?

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    This sort of crap happens a dozen times a day, all over the country. I doubt race had anything to do with it, beyond 4 punks looking for a victim using it to intimidate 1 guy alone, looking to be victimized.

    I am not a fan of hate-legislation. Murder, mayhem, rape, all are hate crimes and have nothing to do with race per se. Punishments should be based on the crime, not on some fatalistic speculation of what the criminal's motive might be. It's crazy. The motive is "I hate you because you rejected my advances, die bitch" and the guy gets a lighter sentence than if the motive is "I hate you because you're white, die bitch." That's absolutely nuts.

    Got no use for hate-crimes legislation at all.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    This sort of crap happens a dozen times a day, all over the country. I doubt race had anything to do with it, beyond 4 punks looking for a victim using it to intimidate 1 guy alone, looking to be victimized.

    I am not a fan of hate-legislation. Murder, mayhem, rape, all are hate crimes and have nothing to do with race per se. Punishments should be based on the crime, not on some fatalistic speculation of what the criminal's motive might be. It's crazy. The motive is "I hate you because you rejected my advances, die bitch" and the guy gets a lighter sentence than if the motive is "I hate you because you're white, die bitch." That's absolutely nuts.

    Got no use for hate-crimes legislation at all.
    Motive is always relevant in a crime - it's the difference between Murder 1 and Murder 2, so it's not anymore speculation than goes into any other case - the prosecution has to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. For your second point: a hate crime has more potential and actual societal effects than a non-hate crime, therefore non-hate crimes and hate crimes are hardly the same thing.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    It should be legal to beat up goth kids.

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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Yes, how sad that this is being investigated. They should just take the first group of blacks they see and string them up - no investigation, no trial.
    What?? Do you REALLY think that's what I posted this for??

    SERIOUSLY? /boggle
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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What?? Do you REALLY think that's what I posted this for??

    SERIOUSLY? /boggle
    Don't even bother dude.
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    Re: I was beaten, taunted for being white, Bronx man says after subway attack Read m

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Are you purposely being obtuse to the point being made or just felt like race baiting a cheap shot?
    Calm down, champ. I'm not race baiting. The OP thinks this shouldn't be investigated. So he must want these guys jailed without a trial. What other conclusion can I come to? Besides, this is Mr.Vicchio we're talking about.


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